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Parmenides

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Translated by Benjamin Jowett

INTRODUCTION AND ANALYSIS. 

PARMENIDES  

INTRODUCTION AND ANALYSIS.

The awe with which Plato regarded the character of 'the great'  Parmenides  has extended to the dialogue which

he calls by his name.  None of the  writings of Plato have been more copiously illustrated,  both in ancient and

modern times, and in none of them have the  interpreters been more at  variance with one another.  Nor is this

surprising.  For the Parmenides is  more fragmentary and isolated than  any other dialogue, and the design of

the writer is not expressly  stated.  The date is uncertain; the relation to  the other writings of  Plato is also

uncertain; the connexion between the  two parts is at  first sight extremely obscure; and in the latter of the two

we are  left in doubt as to whether Plato is speaking his own sentiments by  the lips of Parmenides, and

overthrowing him out of his own mouth, or  whether he is propounding consequences which would have been

admitted  by  Zeno and Parmenides themselves.  The contradictions which follow  from the  hypotheses of the

one and many have been regarded by some as  transcendental  mysteries; by others as a mere illustration, taken

at  random, of a new  method.  They seem to have been inspired by a sort of  dialectical frenzy,  such as may be

supposed to have prevailed in the  Megarian School (compare  Cratylus, etc.).  The criticism on his own

doctrine of Ideas has also been  considered, not as a real criticism,  but as an exuberance of the  metaphysical

imagination which enabled  Plato to go beyond himself.  To the  latter part of the dialogue we may  certainly

apply the words in which he  himself describes the earlier  philosophers in the Sophist:  'They went on  their

way rather  regardless of whether we understood them or not.' 

The Parmenides in point of style is one of the best of the Platonic  writings; the first portion of the dialogue is

in no way defective in  ease  and grace and dramatic interest; nor in the second part, where  there was no  room

for such qualities, is there any want of clearness  or precision.  The  latter half is an exquisite mosaic, of which

the  small pieces are with the  utmost fineness and regularity adapted to  one another.  Like the  Protagoras,

Phaedo, and others, the whole is a  narrated dialogue, combining  with the mere recital of the words  spoken,

the observations of the reciter  on the effect produced by  them.  Thus we are informed by him that Zeno and

Parmenides were not  altogether pleased at the request of Socrates that they  would examine  into the nature of

the one and many in the sphere of Ideas,  although  they received his suggestion with approving smiles.  And

we are  glad  to be told that Parmenides was 'aged but wellfavoured,' and that Zeno  was 'very goodlooking';

also that Parmenides affected to decline the  great  argument, on which, as Zeno knew from experience, he was

not  unwilling to  enter.  The character of Antiphon, the halfbrother of  Plato, who had once  been inclined to

philosophy, but has now shown the  hereditary disposition  for horses, is very naturally described.  He is  the

sole depositary of the  famous dialogue; but, although he receives  the strangers like a courteous  gentleman, he

is impatient of the  trouble of reciting it.  As they enter,  he has been giving orders to a  bridlemaker; by this

slight touch Plato  verifies the previous  description of him.  After a little persuasion he is  induced to favour  the

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Clazomenians, who come from a distance, with a  rehearsal.  Respecting the visit of Zeno and Parmenides to

Athens, we may  observefirst, that such a visit is consistent with dates, and may  possibly have occurred;

secondly, that Plato is very likely to have  invented the meeting ('You, Socrates, can easily invent Egyptian

tales  or  anything else,' Phaedrus); thirdly, that no reliance can be placed  on the  circumstance as determining

the date of Parmenides and Zeno;  fourthly, that  the same occasion appears to be referred to by Plato in  two

other places  (Theaet., Soph.). 

Many interpreters have regarded the Parmenides as a 'reductio ad  absurdum'  of the Eleatic philosophy.  But

would Plato have been likely  to place this  in the mouth of the great Parmenides himself, who  appeared to

him, in  Homeric language, to be 'venerable and awful,' and  to have a 'glorious  depth of mind'? (Theaet.).  It

may be admitted  that he has ascribed to an  Eleatic stranger in the Sophist opinions  which went beyond the

doctrines of  the Eleatics.  But the Eleatic  stranger expressly criticises the doctrines  in which he had been

brought up; he admits that he is going to 'lay hands  on his father  Parmenides.'  Nothing of this kind is said of

Zeno and  Parmenides.  How then, without a word of explanation, could Plato assign to  them  the refutation of

their own tenets? 

The conclusion at which we must arrive is that the Parmenides is  not a  refutation of the Eleatic philosophy.

Nor would such an  explanation afford  any satisfactory connexion of the first and second  parts of the dialogue.

And it is quite inconsistent with Plato's own  relation to the Eleatics.  For of all the preSocratic philosophers,

he  speaks of them with the  greatest respect.  But he could hardly have  passed upon them a more  unmeaning

slight than to ascribe to their  great master tenets the reverse  of those which he actually held. 

Two preliminary remarks may be made.  First, that whatever latitude  we may  allow to Plato in bringing

together by a 'tour de force,' as in  the  Phaedrus, dissimilar themes, yet he always in some way seeks to  find a

connexion for them.  Many threads join together in one the love  and  dialectic of the Phaedrus.  We cannot

conceive that the great  artist would  place in juxtaposition two absolutely divided and  incoherent subjects.

And  hence we are led to make a second remark:  viz. that no explanation of the  Parmenides can be satisfactory

which  does not indicate the connexion of the  first and second parts.  To  suppose that Plato would first go out

of his  way to make Parmenides  attack the Platonic Ideas, and then proceed to a  similar but more  fatal assault

on his own doctrine of Being, appears to be  the height  of absurdity. 

Perhaps there is no passage in Plato showing greater metaphysical  power  than that in which he assails his

own theory of Ideas.  The  arguments are  nearly, if not quite, those of Aristotle; they are the  objections which

naturally occur to a modern student of philosophy.  Many persons will be  surprised to find Plato criticizing the

very  conceptions which have been  supposed in after ages to be peculiarly  characteristic of him.  How can he

have placed himself so completely  without them?  How can he have ever  persisted in them after seeing the

fatal objections which might be urged  against them?  The consideration  of this difficulty has led a recent critic

(Ueberweg), who in general  accepts the authorised canon of the Platonic  writings, to condemn the

Parmenides as spurious.  The accidental want of  external evidence, at  first sight, seems to favour this opinion. 

In answer, it might be sufficient to say, that no ancient writing  of equal  length and excellence is known to be

spurious.  Nor is the  silence of  Aristotle to be hastily assumed; there is at least a doubt  whether his use  of the

same arguments does not involve the inference  that he knew the work.  And, if the Parmenides is spurious,

like  Ueberweg, we are led on further  than we originally intended, to pass a  similar condemnation on the

Theaetetus and Sophist, and therefore on  the Politicus (compare Theaet.,  Soph.).  But the objection is in

reality fanciful, and rests on the  assumption that the doctrine of the  Ideas was held by Plato throughout his

life in the same form.  For the  truth is, that the Platonic Ideas were in  constant process of growth  and

transmutation; sometimes veiled in poetry  and mythology, then  again emerging as fixed Ideas, in some

passages  regarded as absolute  and eternal, and in others as relative to the human  mind, existing in  and derived

from external objects as well as transcending  them.  The  anamnesis of the Ideas is chiefly insisted upon in the

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transcendental existence is not  asserted, and  is therefore implicitly denied in the Philebus;  different forms are

ascribed to them in the Republic, and they are  mentioned in the Theaetetus,  the Sophist, the Politicus, and the

Laws,  much as Universals would be  spoken of in modern books.  Indeed, there  are very faint traces of the

transcendental doctrine of Ideas, that  is, of their existence apart from  the mind, in any of Plato's  writings, with

the exception of the Meno, the  Phaedrus, the Phaedo,  and in portions of the Republic.  The stereotyped  form

which Aristotle  has given to them is not found in Plato (compare Essay  on the Platonic  Ideas in the

Introduction to the Meno.) 

The full discussion of this subject involves a comprehensive survey  of the  philosophy of Plato, which would

be out of place here.  But,  without  digressing further from the immediate subject of the  Parmenides, we may

remark that Plato is quite serious in his  objections to his own doctrines:  nor does Socrates attempt to offer

any answer to them.  The perplexities  which surround the one and many  in the sphere of the Ideas are also

alluded  to in the Philebus, and no  answer is given to them.  Nor have they ever  been answered, nor can  they

be answered by any one else who separates the  phenomenal from the  real.  To suppose that Plato, at a later

period of his  life, reached a  point of view from which he was able to answer them, is a  groundless

assumption.  The real progress of Plato's own mind has been  partly  concealed from us by the dogmatic

statements of Aristotle, and also  by  the degeneracy of his own followers, with whom a doctrine of numbers

quickly superseded Ideas. 

As a preparation for answering some of the difficulties which have  been  suggested, we may begin by

sketching the first portion of the  dialogue: 

Cephalus, of Clazomenae in Ionia, the birthplace of Anaxagoras, a  citizen  of no mean city in the history of

philosophy, who is the  narrator of the  dialogue, describes himself as meeting Adeimantus and  Glaucon in the

Agora  at Athens.  'Welcome, Cephalus:  can we do  anything for you in Athens?'  'Why, yes:  I came to ask a

favour of  you.  First, tell me your half  brother's name, which I have  forgottenhe was a mere child when I

was last  here;I know his  father's, which is Pyrilampes.'  'Yes, and the name of  our brother is  Antiphon.  But

why do you ask?'  'Let me introduce to you  some  countrymen of mine, who are lovers of philosophy; they

have heard that  Antiphon remembers a conversation of Socrates with Parmenides and  Zeno, of  which the

report came to him from Pythodorus, Zeno's friend.'  'That is  quite true.'  'And can they hear the dialogue?'

'Nothing  easier; in the  days of his youth he made a careful study of the piece;  at present, his  thoughts have

another direction:  he takes after his  grandfather, and has  given up philosophy for horses.' 

'We went to look for him, and found him giving instructions to a  worker in  brass about a bridle.  When he had

done with him, and had  learned from his  brothers the purpose of our visit, he saluted me as  an old

acquaintance,  and we asked him to repeat the dialogue.  At  first, he complained of the  trouble, but he soon

consented.  He told  us that Pythodorus had described  to him the appearance of Parmenides  and Zeno; they had

come to Athens at  the great Panathenaea, the former  being at the time about sixtyfive years  old, aged but

wellfavouredZeno, who was said to have been beloved of  Parmenides  in the days of his youth, about

forty, and very goodlooking:  that  they lodged with Pythodorus at the Ceramicus outside the wall, whither

Socrates, then a very young man, came to see them:  Zeno was reading  one of  his theses, which he had nearly

finished, when Pythodorus  entered with  Parmenides and Aristoteles, who was afterwards one of the  Thirty.

When the  recitation was completed, Socrates requested that  the first thesis of the  treatise might be read again.' 

'You mean, Zeno,' said Socrates, 'to argue that being, if it is  many, must  be both like and unlike, which is a

contradiction; and each  division of  your argument is intended to elicit a similar absurdity,  which may be

supposed to follow from the assumption that being is  many.'  'Such is my  meaning.'  'I see,' said Socrates,

turning to  Parmenides, 'that Zeno is  your second self in his writings too; you  prove admirably that the all is

one:  he gives proofs no less  convincing that the many are nought.  To  deceive the world by saying  the same

thing in entirely different forms, is  a strain of art beyond  most of us.'  'Yes, Socrates,' said Zeno; 'but  though

you are as keen  as a Spartan hound, you do not quite catch the  motive of the piece,  which was only intended


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to protect Parmenides against  ridicule by  showing that the hypothesis of the existence of the many  involved

greater absurdities than the hypothesis of the one.  The book was  a  youthful composition of mine, which was

stolen from me, and therefore I  had no choice about the publication.'  'I quite believe you,' said  Socrates; 'but

will you answer me a question?  I should like to know,  whether you would assume an idea of likeness in the

abstract, which is  the  contradictory of unlikeness in the abstract, by participation in  either or  both of which

things are like or unlike or partly both.  For  the same  things may very well partake of like and unlike in the

concrete, though  like and unlike in the abstract are irreconcilable.  Nor does there appear  to me to be any

absurdity in maintaining that  the same things may partake  of the one and many, though I should be  indeed

surprised to hear that the  absolute one is also many.  For  example, I, being many, that is to say,  having many

parts or members,  am yet also one, and partake of the one,  being one of seven who are  here present (compare

Philebus).  This is not an  absurdity, but a  truism.  But I should be amazed if there were a similar  entanglement

in the nature of the ideas themselves, nor can I believe that  one and  many, like and unlike, rest and motion, in

the abstract, are  capable  either of admixture or of separation.' 

Pythodorus said that in his opinion Parmenides and Zeno were not  very well  pleased at the questions which

were raised; nevertheless,  they looked at  one another and smiled in seeming delight and  admiration of

Socrates.  'Tell me,' said Parmenides, 'do you think that  the abstract ideas of  likeness, unity, and the rest, exist

apart from  individuals which partake  of them? and is this your own distinction?'  'I think that there are such

ideas.'  'And would you make abstract  ideas of the just, the beautiful, the  good?'  'Yes,' he said.  'And of  human

beings like ourselves, of water,  fire, and the like?'  'I am not  certain.'  'And would you be undecided also  about

ideas of which the  mention will, perhaps, appear laughable:  of hair,  mud, filth, and  other things which are

base and vile?'  'No, Parmenides;  visible  things like these are, as I believe, only what they appear to be:  though

I am sometimes disposed to imagine that there is nothing  without an  idea; but I repress any such notion, from

a fear of falling  into an abyss  of nonsense.'  'You are young, Socrates, and therefore  naturally regard the

opinions of men; the time will come when  philosophy will have a firmer hold  of you, and you will not

despise  even the meanest things.  But tell me, is  your meaning that things  become like by partaking of

likeness, great by  partaking of greatness,  just and beautiful by partaking of justice and  beauty, and so of other

ideas?'  'Yes, that is my meaning.'  'And do you  suppose the  individual to partake of the whole, or of the part?'

'Why not  of the  whole?' said Socrates.  'Because,' said Parmenides, 'in that case  the  whole, which is one, will

become many.'  'Nay,' said Socrates, 'the  whole may be like the day, which is one and in many places:  in this

way  the ideas may be one and also many.'  'In the same sort of way,'  said  Parmenides, 'as a sail, which is one,

may be a cover to  manythat is your  meaning?'  'Yes.'  'And would you say that each man  is covered by the

whole  sail, or by a part only?'  'By a part.'  'Then  the ideas have parts, and  the objects partake of a part of them

only?'  'That seems to follow.'  'And  would you like to say that the ideas  are really divisible and yet remain

one?'  'Certainly not.'  'Would  you venture to affirm that great objects  have a portion only of  greatness

transferred to them; or that small or  equal objects are  small or equal because they are only portions of

smallness or  equality?'  'Impossible.'  'But how can individuals  participate in  ideas, except in the ways which I

have mentioned?'  'That is  not an  easy question to answer.'  'I should imagine the conception of ideas  to arise as

follows:  you see great objects pervaded by a common form  or  idea of greatness, which you abstract.'  'That is

quite true.'  'And  supposing you embrace in one view the idea of greatness thus  gained and the  individuals

which it comprises, a further idea of  greatness arises, which  makes both great; and this may go on to  infinity.'

Socrates replies that  the ideas may be thoughts in the  mind only; in this case, the consequence  would no

longer follow.  'But  must not the thought be of something which is  the same in all and is  the idea?  And if the

world partakes in the ideas,  and the ideas are  thoughts, must not all things think?  Or can thought be  without

thought?'  'I acknowledge the unmeaningness of this,' says  Socrates,  'and would rather have recourse to the

explanation that the ideas  are  types in nature, and that other things partake of them by becoming like  them.'

'But to become like them is to be comprehended in the same  idea;  and the likeness of the idea and the

individuals implies another  idea of  likeness, and another without end.'  'Quite true.'  'The  theory, then, of

participation by likeness has to be given up.  You  have hardly yet,  Socrates, found out the real difficulty of

maintaining abstract ideas.'  'What difficulty?'  'The greatest of all  perhaps is this:  an opponent will  argue that

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and laborious demonstration,  which he may be unable or  unwilling to follow.  In the first place, neither  you

nor any one who  maintains the existence of absolute ideas will affirm  that they are  subjective.'  'That would be

a contradiction.'  'True; and  therefore  any relation in these ideas is a relation which concerns  themselves  only;

and the objects which are named after them, are relative  to one  another only, and have nothing to do with the

ideas themselves.'  'How  do you mean?' said Socrates.  'I may illustrate my meaning in this  way:  one of us has

a slave; and the idea of a slave in the abstract  is  relative to the idea of a master in the abstract; this

correspondence of  ideas, however, has nothing to do with the  particular relation of our slave  to us.Do you

see my meaning?'  'Perfectly.'  'And absolute knowledge in  the same way corresponds to  absolute truth and

being, and particular  knowledge to particular truth  and being.'  Clearly.'  'And there is a  subjective knowledge

which is  of subjective truth, having many kinds,  general and particular.  But  the ideas themselves are not

subjective, and  therefore are not within  our ken.'  'They are not.'  'Then the beautiful  and the good in their  own

nature are unknown to us?'  'It would seem so.'  'There is a worse  consequence yet.'  'What is that?'  'I think we

must  admit that  absolute knowledge is the most exact knowledge, which we must  therefore attribute to God.

But then see what follows:  God, having  this  exact knowledge, can have no knowledge of human things, as we

have divided  the two spheres, and forbidden any passing from one to  the other:the gods  have knowledge

and authority in their world only,  as we have in ours.'  'Yet, surely, to deprive God of knowledge is

monstrous.''These are some  of the difficulties which are involved in  the assumption of absolute ideas;  the

learner will find them nearly  impossible to understand, and the teacher  who has to impart them will  require

superhuman ability; there will always  be a suspicion, either  that they have no existence, or are beyond human

knowledge.'  'There I  agree with you,' said Socrates.  'Yet if these  difficulties induce you  to give up universal

ideas, what becomes of the  mind? and where are  the reasoning and reflecting powers? philosophy is at  an

end.'  'I  certainly do not see my way.'  'I think,' said Parmenides,  'that this  arises out of your attempting to

define abstractions, such as  the good  and the beautiful and the just, before you have had sufficient  previous

training; I noticed your deficiency when you were talking  with  Aristoteles, the day before yesterday.  Your

enthusiasm is a  wonderful  gift; but I fear that unless you discipline yourself by  dialectic while you  are young,

truth will elude your grasp.'  'And  what kind of discipline  would you recommend?'  'The training which you

heard Zeno practising; at  the same time, I admire your saying to him  that you did not care to  consider the

difficulty in reference to  visible objects, but only in  relation to ideas.'  'Yes; because I  think that in visible

objects you may  easily show any number of  inconsistent consequences.'  'Yes; and you should  consider, not

only  the consequences which follow from a given hypothesis,  but the  consequences also which follow from

the denial of the hypothesis.  For  example, what follows from the assumption of the existence of the many,

and the counterargument of what follows from the denial of the  existence  of the many:  and similarly of

likeness and unlikeness,  motion, rest,  generation, corruption, being and not being.  And the  consequences

must  include consequences to the things supposed and to  other things, in  themselves and in relation to one

another, to  individuals whom you select,  to the many, and to the all; these must  be drawn out both on the

affirmative and on the negative  hypothesis,that is, if you are to train  yourself perfectly to the  intelligence

of the truth.'  'What you are  suggesting seems to be a  tremendous process, and one of which I do not  quite

understand the  nature,' said Socrates; 'will you give me an example?'  'You must not  impose such a task on a

man of my years,' said Parmenides.  'Then will  you, Zeno?'  'Let us rather,' said Zeno, with a smile, 'ask

Parmenides, for the undertaking is a serious one, as he truly says;  nor  could I urge him to make the attempt,

except in a select audience  of  persons who will understand him.'  The whole party joined in the  request. 

Here we have, first of all, an unmistakable attack made by the  youthful  Socrates on the paradoxes of Zeno.

He perfectly understands  their drift,  and Zeno himself is supposed to admit this.  But they  appear to him, as he

says in the Philebus also, to be rather truisms  than paradoxes.  For every  one must acknowledge the obvious

fact, that  the body being one has many  members, and that, in a thousand ways, the  like partakes of the unlike,

the  many of the one.  The real difficulty  begins with the relations of ideas in  themselves, whether of the one

and many, or of any other ideas, to one  another and to the mind.  But  this was a problem which the Eleatic

philosophers had never  considered; their thoughts had not gone beyond the  contradictions of  matter, motion,

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It was no wonder that Parmenides and Zeno should hear the novel  speculations of Socrates with mixed

feelings of admiration and  displeasure.  He was going out of the received circle of disputation  into a region in

which they could hardly follow him.  From the crude  idea of Being in the  abstract, he was about to proceed to

universals  or general notions.  There  is no contradiction in material things  partaking of the ideas of one and

many; neither is there any  contradiction in the ideas of one and many, like  and unlike, in  themselves.  But the

contradiction arises when we attempt to  conceive  ideas in their connexion, or to ascertain their relation to

phenomena.  Still he affirms the existence of such ideas; and this is the  position which is now in turn

submitted to the criticisms of  Parmenides. 

To appreciate truly the character of these criticisms, we must  remember the  place held by Parmenides in the

history of Greek  philosophy.  He is the  founder of idealism, and also of dialectic, or,  in modern phraseology,

of  metaphysics and logic (Theaet., Soph.).  Like Plato, he is struggling after  something wider and deeper than

satisfied the contemporary Pythagoreans.  And Plato with a true  instinct recognizes him as his spiritual father,

whom  he 'revered and  honoured more than all other philosophers together.'  He  may be  supposed to have

thought more than he said, or was able to express.  And, although he could not, as a matter of fact, have

criticized the  ideas  of Plato without an anachronism, the criticism is appropriately  placed in  the mouth of the

founder of the ideal philosophy. 

There was probably a time in the life of Plato when the ethical  teaching of  Socrates came into conflict with

the metaphysical theories  of the earlier  philosophers, and he sought to supplement the one by  the other.  The

older  philosophers were great and awful; and they had  the charm of antiquity.  Something which found a

response in his own  mind seemed to have been lost  as well as gained in the Socratic  dialectic.  He felt no

incongruity in the  veteran Parmenides  correcting the youthful Socrates.  Two points in his  criticism are

especially deserving of notice.  First of all, Parmenides  tries him by  the test of consistency.  Socrates is willing

to assume ideas  or  principles of the just, the beautiful, the good, and to extend them to  man (compare

Phaedo); but he is reluctant to admit that there are  general  ideas of hair, mud, filth, etc.  There is an ethical

universal  or idea, but  is there also a universal of physics?of the meanest  things in the world  as well as of

the greatest?  Parmenides rebukes  this want of consistency in  Socrates, which he attributes to his  youth.  As he

grows older, philosophy  will take a firmer hold of him,  and then he will despise neither great  things nor

small, and he will  think less of the opinions of mankind  (compare Soph.).  Here is  lightly touched one of the

most familiar  principles of modern  philosophy, that in the meanest operations of nature,  as well as in  the

noblest, in mud and filth, as well as in the sun and  stars, great  truths are contained.  At the same time, we may

note also the  transition in the mind of Plato, to which Aristotle alludes (Met.),  when,  as he says, he

transferred the Socratic universal of ethics to  the whole of  nature. 

The other criticism of Parmenides on Socrates attributes to him a  want of  practice in dialectic.  He has

observed this deficiency in him  when talking  to Aristoteles on a previous occasion.  Plato seems to  imply that

there was  something more in the dialectic of Zeno than in  the mere interrogation of  Socrates.  Here, again, he

may perhaps be  describing the process which his  own mind went through when he first  became more

intimately acquainted,  whether at Megara or elsewhere,  with the Eleatic and Megarian philosophers.  Still,

Parmenides does not  deny to Socrates the credit of having gone  beyond them in seeking to  apply the

paradoxes of Zeno to ideas; and this is  the application  which he himself makes of them in the latter part of the

dialogue.  He  then proceeds to explain to him the sort of mental gymnastic  which he  should practise.  He

should consider not only what would follow  from a  given hypothesis, but what would follow from the denial

of it, to  that  which is the subject of the hypothesis, and to all other things.  There  is no trace in the

Memorabilia of Xenophon of any such method being  attributed to Socrates; nor is the dialectic here spoken of

that  'favourite  method' of proceeding by regular divisions, which is  described in the  Phaedrus and Philebus,

and of which examples are  given in the Politicus and  in the Sophist.  It is expressly spoken of  as the method

which Socrates had  heard Zeno practise in the days of  his youth (compare Soph.). 


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The discussion of Socrates with Parmenides is one of the most  remarkable  passages in Plato.  Few writers

have ever been able to  anticipate 'the  criticism of the morrow' on their favourite notions.  But Plato may here

be  said to anticipate the judgment not only of the  morrow, but of all after  ages on the Platonic Ideas.  For in

some  points he touches questions which  have not yet received their solution  in modern philosophy. 

The first difficulty which Parmenides raises respecting the  Platonic ideas  relates to the manner in which

individuals are  connected with them.  Do  they participate in the ideas, or do they  merely resemble them?

Parmenides  shows that objections may be urged  against either of these modes of  conceiving the connection.

Things  are little by partaking of littleness,  great by partaking of  greatness, and the like.  But they cannot

partake of  a part of  greatness, for that will not make them great, etc.; nor can each  object monopolise the

whole.  The only answer to this is, that  'partaking'  is a figure of speech, really corresponding to the  processes

which a later  logic designates by the terms 'abstraction'  and 'generalization.'  When we  have described

accurately the methods  or forms which the mind employs, we  cannot further criticize them; at  least we can

only criticize them with  reference to their fitness as  instruments of thought to express facts. 

Socrates attempts to support his view of the ideas by the parallel  of the  day, which is one and in many places;

but he is easily driven  from his  position by a counter illustration of Parmenides, who  compares the idea of

greatness to a sail.  He truly explains to  Socrates that he has attained  the conception of ideas by a process of

generalization.  At the same time,  he points out a difficulty, which  appears to be involvedviz. that the

process of generalization will  go on to infinity.  Socrates meets the  supposed difficulty by a flash  of light,

which is indeed the true answer  'that the ideas are in our  minds only.'  Neither realism is the truth, nor

nominalism is the  truth, but conceptualism; and conceptualism or any other  psychological  theory falls very

far short of the infinite subtlety of  language and  thought. 

But the realism of ancient philosophy will not admit of this  answer, which  is repelled by Parmenides with

another truth or  halftruth of later  philosophy, 'Every subject or subjective must have  an object.'  Here is the

great though unconscious truth (shall we  say?) or error, which underlay the  early Greek philosophy.  'Ideas

must have a real existence;' they are not  mere forms or opinions,  which may be changed arbitrarily by

individuals.  But the early Greek  philosopher never clearly saw that true ideas were only  universal  facts, and

that there might be error in universals as well as in  particulars. 

Socrates makes one more attempt to defend the Platonic Ideas by  representing them as paradigms; this is

again answered by the  'argumentum  ad infinitum.'  We may remark, in passing, that the  process which is thus

described has no real existence.  The mind,  after having obtained a general  idea, does not really go on to form

another which includes that, and all  the individuals contained under  it, and another and another without end.

The difficulty belongs in  fact to the Megarian age of philosophy, and is  due to their illogical  logic, and to the

general ignorance of the ancients  respecting the  part played by language in the process of thought.  No such

perplexity  could ever trouble a modern metaphysician, any more than the  fallacy  of 'calvus' or 'acervus,' or of

'Achilles and the tortoise.'  These  'surds' of metaphysics ought to occasion no more difficulty in  speculation

than a perpetually recurring fraction in arithmetic. 

It is otherwise with the objection which follows:  How are we to  bridge the  chasm between human truth and

absolute truth, between gods  and men?  This  is the difficulty of philosophy in all ages:  How can  we get

beyond the  circle of our own ideas, or how, remaining within  them, can we have any  criterion of a truth

beyond and independent of  them?  Parmenides draws out  this difficulty with great clearness.  According to

him, there are not only  one but two chasms:  the first,  between individuals and the ideas which  have a

common name; the  second, between the ideas in us and the ideas  absolute.  The first of  these two difficulties

mankind, as we may say, a  little parodying the  language of the Philebus, have long agreed to treat as

obsolete; the  second remains a difficulty for us as well as for the Greeks  of the  fourth century before Christ,

and is the stumblingblock of Kant's  Kritik, and of the Hamiltonian adaptation of Kant, as well as of the

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Revelation, or that there  is one at all,' is  the immediate rejoinder'You know nothing of  things in

themselves.'  'Then  how do you know that there are things in  themselves?'  In some respects,  the difficulty

pressed harder upon the  Greek than upon ourselves.  For  conceiving of God more under the  attribute of

knowledge than we do, he was  more under the necessity of  separating the divine from the human, as two

spheres which had no  communication with one another. 

It is remarkable that Plato, speaking by the mouth of Parmenides,  does not  treat even this second class of

difficulties as hopeless or  insoluble.  He  says only that they cannot be explained without a long  and laborious

demonstration:  'The teacher will require superhuman  ability, and the  learner will be hard of understanding.'

But an  attempt must be made to  find an answer to them; for, as Socrates and  Parmenides both admit, the

denial of abstract ideas is the destruction  of the mind.  We can easily  imagine that among the Greek schools of

philosophy in the fourth century  before Christ a panic might arise  from the denial of universals, similar to

that which arose in the last  century from Hume's denial of our ideas of  cause and effect.  Men do  not at first

recognize that thought, like  digestion, will go on much  the same, notwithstanding any theories which may  be

entertained  respecting the nature of the process.  Parmenides attributes  the  difficulties in which Socrates is

involved to a want of  comprehensiveness in his mode of reasoning; he should consider every  question on the

negative as well as the positive hypothesis, with  reference  to the consequences which flow from the denial as

well as  from the  assertion of a given statement. 

The argument which follows is the most singular in Plato.  It  appears to be  an imitation, or parody, of the

Zenonian dialectic, just  as the speeches in  the Phaedrus are an imitation of the style of  Lysias, or as the

derivations  in the Cratylus or the fallacies of the  Euthydemus are a parody of some  contemporary Sophist.

The  interlocutor is not supposed, as in most of the  other Platonic  dialogues, to take a living part in the

argument; he is only  required  to say 'Yes' and 'No' in the right places.  A hint has been  already  given that the

paradoxes of Zeno admitted of a higher application.  This hint is the thread by which Plato connects the two

parts of the  dialogue. 

The paradoxes of Parmenides seem trivial to us, because the words  to which  they relate have become trivial;

their true nature as  abstract terms is  perfectly understood by us, and we are inclined to  regard the treatment of

them in Plato as a mere strawsplitting, or  legerdemain of words.  Yet  there was a power in them which

fascinated  the Neoplatonists for centuries  afterwards.  Something that they found  in them, or brought to

themsome  echo or anticipation of a great  truth or error, exercised a wonderful  influence over their minds.

To  do the Parmenides justice, we should  imagine similar aporiai raised on  themes as sacred to us, as the

notions of  One or Being were to an  ancient Eleatic.  'If God is, what follows?  If God  is not, what  follows?'  Or

again:  If God is or is not the world; or if God  is or  is not many, or has or has not parts, or is or is not in the

world,  or  in time; or is or is not finite or infinite.  Or if the world is or is  not; or has or has not a beginning or

end; or is or is not infinite,  or  infinitely divisible.  Or again:  if God is or is not identical  with his  laws; or if

man is or is not identical with the laws of  nature.  We can  easily see that here are many subjects for thought,

and that from these and  similar hypotheses questions of great interest  might arise.  And we also  remark, that

the conclusions derived from  either of the two alternative  propositions might be equally impossible  and

contradictory. 

When we ask what is the object of these paradoxes, some have  answered that  they are a mere logical puzzle,

while others have seen  in them an Hegelian  propaedeutic of the doctrine of Ideas.  The first  of these views

derives  support from the manner in which Parmenides  speaks of a similar method  being applied to all Ideas.

Yet it is hard  to suppose that Plato would  have furnished so elaborate an example,  not of his own but of the

Eleatic  dialectic, had he intended only to  give an illustration of method.  The  second view has been often

overstated by those who, like Hegel himself,  have tended to confuse  ancient with modern philosophy.  We

need not deny  that Plato, trained  in the school of Cratylus and Heracleitus, may have  seen that a  contradiction

in terms is sometimes the best expression of a  truth  higher than either (compare Soph.).  But his ideal theory is

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lived; and the Megarian and Cynic  philosophy was a 'reductio ad absurdum' of their isolation.  To  restore  them

to their natural connexion and to detect the negative  element in them  is the aim of Plato in the Sophist.  But

his view of  their connexion falls  very far short of the Hegelian identity of Being  and Notbeing.  The Being

and Notbeing of Plato never merge in each  other, though he is aware that  'determination is only negation.' 

After criticizing the hypotheses of others, it may appear  presumptuous to  add another guess to the many

which have been already  offered.  May we say,  in Platonic language, that we still seem to see  vestiges of a

track which  has not yet been taken?  It is quite  possible that the obscurity of the  Parmenides would not have

existed  to a contemporary student of philosophy,  and, like the similar  difficulty in the Philebus, is really due

to our  ignorance of the mind  of the age.  There is an obscure Megarian influence  on Plato which  cannot

wholly be cleared up, and is not much illustrated by  the  doubtful tradition of his retirement to Megara after

the death of  Socrates.  For Megara was within a walk of Athens (Phaedr.), and Plato  might have learned the

Megarian doctrines without settling there. 

We may begin by remarking that the theses of Parmenides are  expressly said  to follow the method of Zeno,

and that the complex  dilemma, though declared  to be capable of universal application, is  applied in this

instance to  Zeno's familiar question of the 'one and  many.'  Here, then, is a double  indication of the connexion

of the  Parmenides with the Eristic school.  The  old Eleatics had asserted the  existence of Being, which they at

first  regarded as finite, then as  infinite, then as neither finite nor infinite,  to which some of them  had given

what Aristotle calls 'a form,' others had  ascribed a  material nature only.  The tendency of their philosophy was

to  deny to  Being all predicates.  The Megarians, who succeeded them, like the  Cynics, affirmed that no

predicate could be asserted of any subject;  they  also converted the idea of Being into an abstraction of Good,

perhaps with  the view of preserving a sort of neutrality or  indifference between the  mind and things.  As if

they had said, in the  language of modern  philosophy:  'Being is not only neither finite nor  infinite, neither at

rest nor in motion, but neither subjective nor  objective.' 

This is the track along which Plato is leading us.  Zeno had  attempted to  prove the existence of the one by

disproving the  existence of the many, and  Parmenides seems to aim at proving the  existence of the subject by

showing  the contradictions which follow  from the assertion of any predicates.  Take  the simplest of all

notions, 'unity'; you cannot even assert being or time  of this without  involving a contradiction.  But is the

contradiction also  the final  conclusion?  Probably no more than of Zeno's denial of the many,  or of

Parmenides' assault upon the Ideas; no more than of the earlier  dialogues 'of search.'  To us there seems to be

no residuum of this  long  piece of dialectics.  But to the mind of Parmenides and Plato,  'Gott  betrunkene

Menschen,' there still remained the idea of 'being'  or 'good,'  which could not be conceived, defined, uttered,

but could  not be got rid  of.  Neither of them would have imagined that their  disputation ever  touched the

Divine Being (compare Phil.).  The same  difficulties about  Unity and Being are raised in the Sophist; but

there only as preliminary to  their final solution. 

If this view is correct, the real aim of the hypotheses of  Parmenides is to  criticize the earlier Eleatic

philosophy from the  point of view of Zeno or  the Megarians.  It is the same kind of  criticism which Plato has

extended  to his own doctrine of Ideas.  Nor  is there any want of poetical  consistency in attributing to the

'father Parmenides' the last review of  the Eleatic doctrines.  The  latest phases of all philosophies were fathered

upon the founder of  the school. 

Other critics have regarded the final conclusion of the Parmenides  either  as sceptical or as Heracleitean.  In

the first case, they  assume that Plato  means to show the impossibility of any truth.  But  this is not the spirit  of

Plato, and could not with propriety be put  into the mouth of Parmenides,  who, in this very dialogue, is urging

Socrates, not to doubt everything,  but to discipline his mind with a  view to the more precise attainment of

truth.  The same remark applies  to the second of the two theories.  Plato  everywhere ridicules  (perhaps

unfairly) his Heracleitean contemporaries:  and if he had  intended to support an Heracleitean thesis, would

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not,' to be the speaker.  Nor, thirdly, can we  easily persuade ourselves with Zeller that by the 'one' he means

the  Idea;  and that he is seeking to prove indirectly the unity of the Idea  in the  multiplicity of phenomena. 

We may now endeavour to thread the mazes of the labyrinth which  Parmenides  knew so well, and trembled at

the thought of them. 

The argument has two divisions:  There is the hypothesis that 

1.  One is.

2.  One is not.

If one is, it is nothing.

If one is not, it is everything.

But is and is not may be taken in two senses:

Either one is one,

Or, one has being,

from which opposite consequences are deduced,

1.a.  If one is one, it is nothing.

1.b.  If one has being, it is all things.

To which are appended two subordinate consequences:

1.aa.  If one has being, all other things are.

1.bb.  If one is one, all other things are not.

The same distinction is then applied to the negative hypothesis:

2.a.  If one is not one, it is all things.

2.b.  If one has not being, it is nothing.

Involving two parallel consequences respecting the other or remainder:

2.aa.  If one is not one, other things are all.

2.bb.  If one has not being, other things are not.

... 

'I cannot refuse,' said Parmenides, 'since, as Zeno remarks, we are  alone,  though I may say with Ibycus, who

in his old age fell in love,  I, like the  old racehorse, tremble at the prospect of the course which  I am to run,

and  which I know so well.  But as I must attempt this  laborious game, what  shall be the subject?  Suppose I

take my own  hypothesis of the one.'  'By  all means,' said Zeno.  'And who will  answer me?  Shall I propose the

youngest? he will be the most likely  to say what he thinks, and his answers  will give me time to breathe.'  'I

am the youngest,' said Aristoteles, 'and  at your service; proceed  with your questions.'The result may be

summed up  as follows: 

1.a.  One is not many, and therefore has no parts, and therefore is  not a  whole, which is a sum of parts, and

therefore has neither  beginning,  middle, nor end, and is therefore unlimited, and therefore  formless, being

neither round nor straight, for neither round nor  straight can be defined  without assuming that they have

parts; and  therefore is not in place,  whether in another which would encircle and  touch the one at many

points;  or in itself, because that which is  selfcontaining is also contained, and  therefore not one but two.

This being premised, let us consider whether  one is capable either of  motion or rest.  For motion is either

change of  substance, or motion  on an axis, or from one place to another.  But the one  is incapable of  change of

substance, which implies that it ceases to be  itself, or of  motion on an axis, because there would be parts

around the  axis; and  any other motion involves change of place.  But existence in  place has  been already

shown to be impossible; and yet more impossible is  coming  into being in place, which implies partial

existence in two places  at  once, or entire existence neither within nor without the same; and how  can this be?

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nor parts.  The one,  then, is incapable of motion.  But neither can the one be in  anything, and  therefore not in

the same, whether itself or some other,  and is therefore  incapable of rest.  Neither is one the same with  itself

or any other, or  other than itself or any other.  For if other  than itself, then other than  one, and therefore not

one; and, if the  same with other, it would be other,  and other than one.  Neither can  one while remaining one

be other than  other; for other, and not one,  is the other than other.  But if not other  by virtue of being one, not

by virtue of itself; and if not by virtue of  itself, not itself other,  and if not itself other, not other than anything.

Neither will one be  the same with itself.  For the nature of the same is  not that of the  one, but a thing which

becomes the same with anything does  not become  one; for example, that which becomes the same with the

many  becomes  many and not one.  And therefore if the one is the same with  itself,  the one is not one with

itself; and therefore one and not one.  And  therefore one is neither other than other, nor the same with itself.

Neither will the one be like or unlike itself or other; for likeness  is  sameness of affections, and the one and

the same are different.  And one  having any affection which is other than being one would be  more than one.

The one, then, cannot have the same affection with and  therefore cannot be  like itself or other; nor can the

one have any  other affection than its  own, that is, be unlike itself or any other,  for this would imply that it

was more than one.  The one, then, is  neither like nor unlike itself or  other.  This being the case, neither  can the

one be equal or unequal to  itself or other.  For equality  implies sameness of measure, as inequality  implies a

greater or less  number of measures.  But the one, not having  sameness, cannot have  sameness of measure; nor

a greater or less number of  measures, for  that would imply parts and multitude.  Once more, can one be  older

or  younger than itself or other? or of the same age with itself or  other?  That would imply likeness and

unlikeness, equality and inequality.  Therefore one cannot be in time, because that which is in time is ever

becoming older and younger than itself, (for older and younger are  relative  terms, and he who becomes older

becomes younger,) and is also  of the same  age with itself.  None of which, or any other expressions  of time,

whether  past, future, or present, can be affirmed of one.  One neither is, has  been, nor will be, nor becomes,

nor has, nor will  become.  And, as these  are the only modes of being, one is not, and is  not one.  But to that

which  is not, there is no attribute or relative,  neither name nor word nor idea  nor science nor perception nor

opinion  appertaining.  One, then, is neither  named, nor uttered, nor known,  nor perceived, nor imagined.  But

can all  this be true?  'I think  not.' 

1.b.  Let us, however, commence the inquiry again.  We have to work  out all  the consequences which follow

on the assumption that the one  is.  If one  is, one partakes of being, which is not the same with one;  the words

'being' and 'one' have different meanings.  Observe the  consequence:  In  the one of being or the being of one

are two parts,  being and one, which  form one whole.  And each of the two parts is  also a whole, and involves

the other, and may be further subdivided  into one and being, and is  therefore not one but two; and thus one is

never one, and in this way the  one, if it is, becomes many and  infinite.  Again, let us conceive of a one  which

by an effort of  abstraction we separate from being:  will this  abstract one be one or  many?  You say one only;

let us see.  In the first  place, the being of  one is other than one; and one and being, if different,  are so because

they both partake of the nature of other, which is therefore  neither  one nor being; and whether we take being

and other, or being and  one,  or one and other, in any case we have two things which separately are  called

either, and together both.  And both are two and either of two  is  severally one, and if one be added to any of

the pairs, the sum is  three;  and two is an even number, three an odd; and two units exist  twice, and  therefore

there are twice two; and three units exist  thrice, and therefore  there are thrice three, and taken together they

give twice three and thrice  two:  we have even numbers multiplied into  even, and odd into even, and  even into

odd numbers.  But if one is,  and both odd and even numbers are  implied in one, must not every  number exist?

And number is infinite, and  therefore existence must be  infinite, for all and every number partakes of  being;

therefore being  has the greatest number of parts, and every part,  however great or  however small, is equally

one.  But can one be in many  places and yet  be a whole?  If not a whole it must be divided into parts  and

represented by a number corresponding to the number of the parts.  And  if so, we were wrong in saying that

being has the greatest number of  parts;  for being is coequal and coextensive with one, and has no more  parts

than  one; and so the abstract one broken up into parts by being  is many and  infinite.  But the parts are parts of

a whole, and the  whole is their  containing limit, and the one is therefore limited as  well as infinite in  number;

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one is therefore of a certain  figure, round or straight, or a  combination of the two, and being a whole  includes

all the parts which  are the whole, and is therefore self  contained.  But then, again, the  whole is not in the

parts, whether all or  some.  Not in all, because,  if in all, also in one; for, if wanting in any  one, how in

all?not  in some, because the greater would then be contained  in the less.  But  if not in all, nor in any, nor in

some, either nowhere or  in other.  And if nowhere, nothing; therefore in other.  The one as a  whole,  then, is in

another, but regarded as a sum of parts is in itself;  and  is, therefore, both in itself and in another.  This being

the case, the  one is at once both at rest and in motion:  at rest, because resting  in  itself; in motion, because it is

ever in other.  And if there is  truth in  what has preceded, one is the same and not the same with  itself and

other.  For everything in relation to every other thing is  either the same with it  or other; or if neither the same

nor other,  then in the relation of part to  a whole or whole to a part.  But one  cannot be a part or whole in

relation  to one, nor other than one; and  is therefore the same with one.  Yet this  sameness is again  contradicted

by one being in another place from itself  which is in the  same place; this follows from one being in itself and

in  another; one,  therefore, is other than itself.  But if anything is other  than  anything, will it not be other than

other?  And the not one is other  than the one, and the one than the not one; therefore one is other  than all

others.  But the same and the other exclude one another, and  therefore the  other can never be in the same; nor

can the other be in  anything for ever  so short a time, as for that time the other will be  in the same.  And the

other, if never in the same, cannot be either in  the one or in the not one.  And one is not other than not one,

either  by reason of other or of itself;  and therefore they are not other than  one another at all.  Neither can the

not one partake or be part of  one, for in that case it would be one; nor  can the not one be number,  for that also

involves one.  And therefore, not  being other than the  one or related to the one as a whole to parts or parts  to a

whole, not  one is the same as one.  Wherefore the one is the same and  also not  the same with the others and

also with itself; and is therefore  like  and unlike itself and the others, and just as different from the  others as

they are from the one, neither more nor less.  But if  neither  more nor less, equally different; and therefore the

one and  the others have  the same relations.  This may be illustrated by the  case of names:  when  you repeat the

same name twice over, you mean the  same thing; and when you  say that the other is other than the one, or  the

one other than the other,  this very word other (eteron), which is  attributed to both, implies  sameness.  One,

then, as being other than  others, and other as being other  than one, are alike in that they have  the relation of

otherness; and  likeness is similarity of relations.  And everything as being other of  everything is also like

everything.  Again, same and other, like and  unlike, are opposites:  and since in  virtue of being other than the

others  the one is like them, in virtue  of being the same it must be unlike.  Again, one, as having the same

relations, has no difference of relation,  and is therefore not unlike,  and therefore like; or, as having different

relations, is different  and unlike.  Thus, one, as being the same and not  the same with itself  and othersfor

both these reasons and for either of  themis also  like and unlike itself and the others.  Again, how far can

one touch  itself and the others?  As existing in others, it touches the  others;  and as existing in itself, touches

only itself.  But from another  point of view, that which touches another must be next in order of  place;  one,

therefore, must be next in order of place to itself, and  would  therefore be two, and in two places.  But one

cannot be two, and  therefore  cannot be in contact with itself.  Nor again can one touch  the other.  Two  objects

are required to make one contact; three  objects make two contacts;  and all the objects in the world, if placed

in a series, would have as many  contacts as there are objects, less  one.  But if one only exists, and not  two,

there is no contact.  And  the others, being other than one, have no  part in one, and therefore  none in number,

and therefore two has no  existence, and therefore  there is no contact.  For all which reasons, one  has and has

not  contact with itself and the others. 

Once more, Is one equal and unequal to itself and the others?  Suppose one  and the others to be greater or less

than each other or  equal to one  another, they will be greater or less or equal by reason  of equality or  greatness

or smallness inhering in them in addition to  their own proper  nature.  Let us begin by assuming smallness to

be  inherent in one:  in this  case the inherence is either in the whole or  in a part.  If the first,  smallness is either

coextensive with the  whole one, or contains the whole,  and, if coextensive with the one, is  equal to the one, or

if containing the  one will be greater than the  one.  But smallness thus performs the function  of equality or of

greatness, which is impossible.  Again, if the inherence  be in a part,  the same contradiction follows:  smallness

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the idea of smallness there will be nothing  small.  Neither will greatness; for greatness will have a

greater;and  there will  be no small in relation to which it is great.  And there  will be no great  or small in

objects, but greatness and smallness will  be relative only to  each other; therefore the others cannot be greater

or less than the one;  also the one can neither exceed nor be exceeded  by the others, and they are  therefore

equal to one another.  And this  will be true also of the one in  relation to itself:  one will be equal  to itself as

well as to the others  (talla).  Yet one, being in itself,  must also be about itself, containing  and contained, and is

therefore  greater and less than itself.  Further,  there is nothing beside the  one and the others; and as these must

be in  something, they must  therefore be in one another; and as that in which a  thing is is  greater than the

thing, the inference is that they are both  greater  and less than one another, because containing and contained

in one  another.  Therefore the one is equal to and greater and less than  itself or  other, having also measures or

parts or numbers equal to or  greater or less  than itself or other. 

But does one partake of time?  This must be acknowledged, if the  one  partakes of being.  For 'to be' is the

participation of being in  present  time, 'to have been' in past, 'to be about to be' in future  time.  And as  time is

ever moving forward, the one becomes older than  itself; and  therefore younger than itself; and is older and

also  younger when in the  process of becoming it arrives at the present; and  it is always older and  younger, for

at any moment the one is, and  therefore it becomes and is not  older and younger than itself but  during an

equal time with itself, and is  therefore contemporary with  itself. 

And what are the relations of the one to the others?  Is it or does  it  become older or younger than they?  At any

rate the others are more  than  one, and one, being the least of all numbers, must be prior in  time to  greater

numbers.  But on the other hand, one must come into  being in a  manner accordant with its own nature.  Now

one has parts or  others, and has  therefore a beginning, middle, and end, of which the  beginning is first and  the

end last.  And the parts come into  existence first; last of all the  whole, contemporaneously with the  end, being

therefore younger, while the  parts or others are older than  the one.  But, again, the one comes into  being in

each of the parts as  much as in the whole, and must be of the same  age with them.  Therefore one is at once

older and younger than the parts  or others,  and also contemporaneous with them, for no part can be a part

which is  not one.  Is this true of becoming as well as being?  Thus much  may be  affirmed, that the same things

which are older or younger cannot  become older or younger in a greater degree than they were at first by  the

addition of equal times.  But, on the other hand, the one, if  older than  others, has come into being a longer

time than they have.  And when equal  time is added to a longer and shorter, the relative  difference between

them  is diminished.  In this way that which was  older becomes younger, and that  which was younger becomes

older, that  is to say, younger and older than at  first; and they ever become and  never have become, for then

they would be.  Thus the one and others  always are and are becoming and not becoming  younger and also

older  than one another.  And one, partaking of time and  also partaking of  becoming older and younger, admits

of all time, present,  past, and  futurewas, is, shall bewas becoming, is becoming, will  become.  And there

is science of the one, and opinion and name and  expression,  as is already implied in the fact of our inquiry. 

Yet once more, if one be one and many, and neither one nor many,  and also  participant of time, must there

not be a time at which one as  being one  partakes of being, and a time when one as not being one is  deprived

of  being?  But these two contradictory states cannot be  experienced by the one  both together:  there must be a

time of  transition.  And the transition is  a process of generation and  destruction, into and from being and

notbeing,  the one and the  others.  For the generation of the one is the destruction  of the  others, and the

generation of the others is the destruction of the  one.  There is also separation and aggregation, assimilation

and  dissimilation, increase, diminution, equalization, a passage from  motion to  rest, and from rest to motion

in the one and many.  But when  do all these  changes take place?  When does motion become rest, or  rest

motion?  The  answer to this question will throw a light upon all  the others.  Nothing  can be in motion and at

rest at the same time;  and therefore the change  takes place 'in a moment'which is a strange  expression, and

seems to mean  change in no time.  Which is true also  of all the other changes, which  likewise take place in no

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1.aa.  But if one is, what happens to the others, which in the  first place  are not one, yet may partake of one in a

certain way?  The  others are other  than the one because they have parts, for if they had  no parts they would  be

simply one, and parts imply a whole to which  they belong; otherwise each  part would be a part of many, and

being  itself one of them, of itself, and  if a part of all, of each one of  the other parts, which is absurd.  For a

part, if not a part of one,  must be a part of all but this one, and if so  not a part of each one;  and if not a part of

each one, not a part of any  one of many, and so  not of one; and if of none, how of all?  Therefore a  part is

neither a  part of many nor of all, but of an absolute and perfect  whole or one.  And if the others have parts,

they must partake of the  whole, and  must be the whole of which they are the parts.  And each part,  as the  word

'each' implies, is also an absolute one.  And both the whole  and  the parts partake of one, for the whole of

which the parts are parts is  one, and each part is one part of the whole; and whole and parts as  participating in

one are other than one, and as being other than one  are  many and infinite; and however small a fraction you

separate from  them is  many and not one.  Yet the fact of their being parts furnishes  the others  with a limit

towards other parts and towards the whole;  they are finite and  also infinite:  finite through participation in  the

one, infinite in their  own nature.  And as being finite, they are  alike; and as being infinite,  they are alike; but

as being both finite  and also infinite, they are in the  highest degree unlike.  And all  other opposites might

without difficulty be  shown to unite in them. 

1.bb.  Once more, leaving all this:  Is there not also an opposite  series  of consequences which is equally true of

the others, and may be  deduced  from the existence of one?  There is.  One is distinct from  the others, and  the

others from one; for one and the others are all  things, and there is no  third existence besides them.  And the

whole  of one cannot be in others nor  parts of it, for it is separated from  others and has no parts, and  therefore

the others have no unity, nor  plurality, nor duality, nor any  other number, nor any opposition or  distinction,

such as likeness and  unlikeness, some and other,  generation and corruption, odd and even.  For  if they had

these they  would partake either of one opposite, and this would  be a  participation in one; or of two opposites,

and this would be a  participation in two.  Thus if one exists, one is all things, and  likewise  nothing, in relation

to one and to the others. 

2.a.  But, again, assume the opposite hypothesis, that the one is  not, and  what is the consequence?  In the first

place, the  proposition, that one is  not, is clearly opposed to the proposition,  that not one is not.  The  subject of

any negative proposition implies  at once knowledge and  difference.  Thus 'one' in the proposition'The  one

is not,' must be  something known, or the words would be  unintelligible; and again this 'one  which is not' is

something  different from other things.  Moreover, this and  that, some and other,  may be all attributed or

related to the one which is  not, and which  though nonexistent may and must have plurality, if the one  only is

nonexistent and nothing else; but if all is notbeing there is  nothing which can be spoken of.  Also the one

which is not differs,  and is  different in kind from the others, and therefore unlike them;  and they  being other

than the one, are unlike the one, which is  therefore unlike  them.  But one, being unlike other, must be like

itself; for the unlikeness  of one to itself is the destruction of the  hypothesis; and one cannot be  equal to the

others; for that would  suppose being in the one, and the  others would be equal to one and  like one; both

which are impossible, if  one does not exist.  The one  which is not, then, if not equal is unequal to  the others,

and in  equality implies great and small, and equality lies  between great and  small, and therefore the one

which is not partakes of  equality.  Further, the one which is not has being; for that which is true  is,  and it is

true that the one is not.  And so the one which is not, if  remitting aught of the being of nonexistence, would

become existent.  For  not being implies the being of notbeing, and being the notbeing  of not  being; or

more truly being partakes of the being of being and  not of the  being of notbeing, and notbeing of the being

of notbeing  and not of the  notbeing of notbeing.  And therefore the one which is  not has being and  also

notbeing.  And the union of being and  notbeing involves change or  motion.  But how can notbeing, which

is  nowhere, move or change, either  from one place to another or in the  same place?  And whether it is or is

not, it would cease to be one if  experiencing a change of substance.  The  one which is not, then, is  both in

motion and at rest, is altered and  unaltered, and becomes and  is destroyed, and does not become and is not

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2.b.  Once more, let us ask the question, If one is not, what  happens in  regard to one?  The expression 'is not'

implies negation of  being:do we  mean by this to say that a thing, which is not, in a  certain sense is? or  do

we mean absolutely to deny being of it?  The  latter.  Then the one which  is not can neither be nor become nor

perish nor experience change of  substance or place.  Neither can rest,  or motion, or greatness, or  smallness, or

equality, or unlikeness, or  likeness either to itself or  other, or attribute or relation, or now  or hereafter or

formerly, or  knowledge or opinion or perception or  name or anything else be asserted of  that which is not. 

2.aa.  Once more, if one is not, what becomes of the others?  If we  speak  of them they must be, and their very

name implies difference,  and  difference implies relation, not to the one, which is not, but to  one  another.  And

they are others of each other not as units but as  infinities,  the least of which is also infinity, and capable of

infinitesimal division.  And they will have no unity or number, but  only a semblance of unity and  number; and

the least of them will  appear large and manifold in comparison  with the infinitesimal  fractions into which it

may be divided.  Further,  each particle will  have the appearance of being equal with the fractions.  For in

passing  from the greater to the less it must reach an intermediate  point,  which is equality.  Moreover, each

particle although having a limit  in  relation to itself and to other particles, yet it has neither  beginning,  middle,

nor end; for there is always a beginning before the  beginning, and  a middle within the middle, and an end

beyond the end,  because the  infinitesimal division is never arrested by the one.  Thus  all being is one  at a

distance, and broken up when near, and like at a  distance and unlike  when near; and also the particles which

compose  being seem to be like and  unlike, in rest and motion, in generation  and corruption, in contact and

separation, if one is not. 

2.bb.  Once more, let us inquire, If the one is not, and the others  of the  one are, what follows?  In the first

place, the others will not  be the one,  nor the many, for in that case the one would be contained  in them;

neither  will they appear to be one or many; because they have  no communion or  participation in that which is

not, nor semblance of  that which is not.  If  one is not, the others neither are, nor appear  to be one or many, like

or  unlike, in contact or separation.  In  short, if one is not, nothing is. 

The result of all which is, that whether one is or is not, one and  the  others, in relation to themselves and to

one another, are and are  not, and  appear to be and appear not to be, in all manner of ways. 

I. On the first hypothesis we may remark:  first, That one is one  is an  identical proposition, from which we

might expect that no  further  consequences could be deduced.  The train of consequences  which follows, is

inferred by altering the predicate into 'not many.'  Yet, perhaps, if a  strict Eristic had been present, oios aner ei

kai  nun paren, he might have  affirmed that the not many presented a  different aspect of the conception  from

the one, and was therefore not  identical with it.  Such a subtlety  would be very much in character  with the

Zenonian dialectic.  Secondly, We  may note, that the  conclusion is really involved in the premises.  For one  is

conceived  as one, in a sense which excludes all predicates.  When the  meaning of  one has been reduced to a

point, there is no use in saying that  it has  neither parts nor magnitude.  Thirdly, The conception of the same  is,

first of all, identified with the one; and then by a further analysis  distinguished from, and even opposed to it.

Fourthly, We may detect  notions, which have reappeared in modern philosophy, e.g. the bare  abstraction of

undefined unity, answering to the Hegelian 'Seyn,' or  the  identity of contradictions 'that which is older is also

younger,'  etc., or  the Kantian conception of an a priori synthetical proposition  'one is.' 

II.  In the first series of propositions the word 'is' is really  the  copula; in the second, the verb of existence.  As

in the first  series, the  negative consequence followed from one being affirmed to  be equivalent to  the not

many; so here the affirmative consequence is  deduced from one being  equivalent to the many. 

In the former case, nothing could be predicated of the one, but now  everythingmultitude, relation, place,

time, transition.  One is  regarded  in all the aspects of one, and with a reference to all the  consequences  which

flow, either from the combination or the separation  of them.  The  notion of transition involves the singular

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involved in supposing that  anything can be in two places at once.  It is a mere fiction; and we  may observe

that similar antinomies have led  modern philosophers to  deny the reality of time and space.  It is not the

infinitesimal of  time, but the negative of time.  By the help of this  invention the  conception of change, which

sorely exercised the minds of  early  thinkers, seems to be, but is not really at all explained.  The  difficulty

arises out of the imperfection of language, and should  therefore  be no longer regarded as a difficulty at all.

The only way  of meeting it,  if it exists, is to acknowledge that this rather  puzzling double conception  is

necessary to the expression of the  phenomena of motion or change, and  that this and similar double  notions,

instead of being anomalies, are among  the higher and more  potent instruments of human thought. 

The processes by which Parmenides obtains his remarkable results  may be  summed up as follows:  (1)

Compound or correlative ideas which  involve each  other, such as, being and notbeing, one and many, are

conceived sometimes  in a state of composition, and sometimes of  division:  (2) The division or  distinction is

sometimes heightened  into total opposition, e.g. between one  and same, one and other:  or  (3) The idea, which

has been already divided,  is regarded, like a  number, as capable of further infinite subdivision:  (4) The

argument  often proceeds 'a dicto secundum quid ad dictum  simpliciter' and  conversely:  (5) The analogy of

opposites is misused by  him; he argues  indiscriminately sometimes from what is like, sometimes from  what

is  unlike in them:  (6) The idea of being or notbeing is identified  with  existence or nonexistence in place or

time:  (7) The same ideas are  regarded sometimes as in process of transition, sometimes as  alternatives  or

opposites:  (8) There are no degrees or kinds of  sameness, likeness,  difference, nor any adequate conception of

motion  or change:  (9) One,  being, time, like space in Zeno's puzzle of  Achilles and the tortoise, are  regarded

sometimes as continuous and  sometimes as discrete:  (10) In some  parts of the argument the  abstraction is so

rarefied as to become not only  fallacious, but  almost unintelligible, e.g. in the contradiction which is  elicited

out  of the relative terms older and younger:  (11) The relation  between  two terms is regarded under

contradictory aspects, as for example  when  the existence of the one and the nonexistence of the one are

equally  assumed to involve the existence of the many:  (12) Words are used  through  long chains of argument,

sometimes loosely, sometimes with the  precision of  numbers or of geometrical figures. 

The argument is a very curious piece of work, unique in literature.  It  seems to be an exposition or rather a

'reductio ad absurdum' of  the  Megarian philosophy, but we are too imperfectly acquainted with  this last  to

speak with confidence about it.  It would be safer to say  that it is an  indication of the sceptical, hyperlogical

fancies which  prevailed among the  contemporaries of Socrates.  It throws an  indistinct light upon Aristotle,

and makes us aware of the debt which  the world owes to him or his school.  It also bears a resemblance to

some modern speculations, in which an  attempt is made to narrow  language in such a manner that number

and figure  may be made a  calculus of thought.  It exaggerates one side of logic and  forgets the  rest.  It has the

appearance of a mathematical process; the  inventor  of it delights, as mathematicians do, in eliciting or

discovering  an  unexpected result.  It also helps to guard us against some fallacies by  showing the

consequences which flow from them. 

In the Parmenides we seem to breathe the spirit of the Megarian  philosophy,  though we cannot compare the

two in detail.  But Plato  also goes beyond his  Megarian contemporaries; he has split their  straws over again,

and admitted  more than they would have desired.  He  is indulging the analytical  tendencies of his age, which

can divide  but not combine.  And he does not  stop to inquire whether the  distinctions which he makes are

shadowy and  fallacious, but 'whither  the argument blows' he follows. 

III.  The negative series of propositions contains the first  conception of  the negation of a negation.  Two minus

signs in  arithmetic or algebra make  a plus.  Two negatives destroy each other.  This abstruse notion is the

foundation of the Hegelian logic.  The  mind must not only admit that  determination is negation, but must get

through negation into affirmation.  Whether this process is real, or in  any way an assistance to thought, or,  like

some other logical forms, a  mere figure of speech transferred from the  sphere of mathematics, may  be

doubted.  That Plato and the most subtle  philosopher of the  nineteenth century should have lighted upon the

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IV.  The one and the many or others are reduced to their strictest  arithmetical meaning.  That one is three or

three one, is a  proposition  which has, perhaps, given rise to more controversy in the  world than any  other.  But

no one has ever meant to say that three and  one are to be taken  in the same sense.  Whereas the one and many

of  the Parmenides have  precisely the same meaning; there is no notion of  one personality or  substance having

many attributes or qualities.  The  truth seems to be  rather the opposite of that which Socrates implies:  There is

no  contradiction in the concrete, but in the abstract; and  the more abstract  the idea, the more palpable will be

the  contradiction.  For just as nothing  can persuade us that the number  one is the number three, so neither can

we  be persuaded that any  abstract idea is identical with its opposite,  although they may both  inhere together

in some external object, or some  more comprehensive  conception.  Ideas, persons, things may be one in one

sense and many  in another, and may have various degrees of unity and  plurality.  But  in whatever sense and in

whatever degree they are one they  cease to be  many; and in whatever degree or sense they are many they

cease  to be  one. 

Two points remain to be considered:  1st, the connexion between the  first  and second parts of the dialogue;

2ndly, the relation of the  Parmenides to  the other dialogues. 

I.  In both divisions of the dialogue the principal speaker is the  same,  and the method pursued by him is also

the same, being a  criticism on  received opinions:  first, on the doctrine of Ideas;  secondly, of Being.  From the

Platonic Ideas we naturally proceed to  the Eleatic One or Being  which is the foundation of them.  They are  the

same philosophy in two  forms, and the simpler form is the truer  and deeper.  For the Platonic  Ideas are mere

numerical differences,  and the moment we attempt to  distinguish between them, their  transcendental

character is lost; ideas of  justice, temperance, and  good, are really distinguishable only with  reference to their

application in the world.  If we once ask how they are  related to  individuals or to the ideas of the divine mind,

they are again  merged  in the aboriginal notion of Being.  No one can answer the questions  which Parmenides

asks of Socrates.  And yet these questions are asked  with  the express acknowledgment that the denial of ideas

will be the  destruction  of the human mind.  The true answer to the difficulty here  thrown out is  the

establishment of a rational psychology; and this is  a work which is  commenced in the Sophist.  Plato, in

urging the  difficulty of his own  doctrine of Ideas, is far from denying that some  doctrine of Ideas is

necessary, and for this he is paving the way. 

In a similar spirit he criticizes the Eleatic doctrine of Being,  not  intending to deny Ontology, but showing that

the old Eleatic  notion, and  the very name 'Being,' is unable to maintain itself  against the subtleties  of the

Megarians.  He did not mean to say that  Being or Substance had no  existence, but he is preparing for the

development of his later view, that  ideas were capable of relation.  The fact that contradictory consequences

follow from the existence or  nonexistence of one or many, does not prove  that they have or have  not

existence, but rather that some different mode  of conceiving them  is required.  Parmenides may still have

thought that  'Being was,' just  as Kant would have asserted the existence of 'things in  themselves,'  while

denying the transcendental use of the Categories. 

Several lesser links also connect the first and second parts of the  dialogue:  (1) The thesis is the same as that

which Zeno has been  already  discussing:  (2) Parmenides has intimated in the first part,  that the  method of

Zeno should, as Socrates desired, be extended to  Ideas:  (3) The  difficulty of participating in greatness,

smallness,  equality is urged  against the Ideas as well as against the One. 

II.  The Parmenides is not only a criticism of the Eleatic notion  of Being,  but also of the methods of reasoning

then in existence, and  in this point  of view, as well as in the other, may be regarded as an  introduction to the

Sophist.  Long ago, in the Euthydemus, the vulgar  application of the 'both  and neither' Eristic had been

subjected to a  similar criticism, which there  takes the form of banter and irony,  here of illustration. 

The attack upon the Ideas is resumed in the Philebus, and is  followed by a  return to a more rational

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theory of  classification; the Good arranged in classes  is also contrasted with the  barren abstraction of the

Megarians.  The  war is carried on against the  Eristics in all the later dialogues,  sometimes with a playful

irony, at  other times with a sort of  contempt.  But there is no lengthened refutation  of them.  The  Parmenides

belongs to that stage of the dialogues of Plato in  which he  is partially under their influence, using them as a

sort of  'critics  or diviners' of the truth of his own, and of the Eleatic theories.  In  the Theaetetus a similar

negative dialectic is employed in the attempt  to define science, which after every effort remains undefined

still.  The  same question is revived from the objective side in the Sophist:  Being and  Notbeing are no longer

exhibited in opposition, but are  now reconciled;  and the true nature of Notbeing is discovered and  made the

basis of the  correlation of ideas.  Some links are probably  missing which might have  been supplied if we had

trustworthy accounts  of Plato's oral teaching. 

To sum up:  the Parmenides of Plato is a critique, first, of the  Platonic  Ideas, and secondly, of the Eleatic

doctrine of Being.  Neither are  absolutely denied.  But certain difficulties and  consequences are shown in  the

assumption of either, which prove that  the Platonic as well as the  Eleatic doctrine must be remodelled.  The

negation and contradiction which  are involved in the conception of the  One and Many are preliminary to their

final adjustment.  The Platonic  Ideas are tested by the interrogative  method of Socrates; the Eleatic  One or

Being is tried by the severer and  perhaps impossible method of  hypothetical consequences, negative and

affirmative.  In the latter we  have an example of the Zenonian or Megarian  dialectic, which  proceeded, not 'by

assailing premises, but conclusions';  this is  worked out and improved by Plato.  When primary abstractions

are  used  in every conceivable sense, any or every conclusion may be deduced  from them.  The words 'one,'

'other,' 'being,' 'like,' 'same,'  'whole,' and  their opposites, have slightly different meanings, as  they are applied

to  objects of thought or objects of senseto number,  time, place, and to the  higher ideas of the reason;and

out of their  different meanings this  'feast' of contradictions 'has been provided.' 

... 

The Parmenides of Plato belongs to a stage of philosophy which has  passed  away.  At first we read it with a

purely antiquarian or  historical  interest; and with difficulty throw ourselves back into a  state of the  human

mind in which Unity and Being occupied the  attention of philosophers.  We admire the precision of the

language, in  which, as in some curious  puzzle, each word is exactly fitted into  every other, and long trains of

argument are carried out with a sort  of geometrical accuracy.  We doubt  whether any abstract notion could

stand the searching crossexamination of  Parmenides; and may at last  perhaps arrive at the conclusion that

Plato has  been using an  imaginary method to work out an unmeaning conclusion.  But  the truth  is, that he is

carrying on a process which is not either useless  or  unnecessary in any age of philosophy.  We fail to

understand him,  because we do not realize that the questions which he is discussing  could  have had any value

or importance.  We suppose them to be like  the  speculations of some of the Schoolmen, which end in nothing.

But  in truth  he is trying to get rid of the stumblingblocks of thought  which beset his  contemporaries.  Seeing

that the Megarians and Cynics  were making knowledge  impossible, he takes their 'catchwords' and  analyzes

them from every  conceivable point of view.  He is criticizing  the simplest and most general  of our ideas, in

which, as they are the  most comprehensive, the danger of  error is the most serious; for, if  they remain

unexamined, as in a  mathematical demonstration, all that  flows from them is affected, and the  error pervades

knowledge far and  wide.  In the beginning of philosophy this  correction of human ideas  was even more

necessary than in our own times,  because they were more  bound up with words; and words when once

presented  to the mind  exercised a greater power over thought.  There is a natural  realism  which says, 'Can

there be a word devoid of meaning, or an idea  which  is an idea of nothing?'  In modern times mankind have

often given too  great importance to a word or idea.  The philosophy of the ancients  was  still more in slavery to

them, because they had not the experience  of  error, which would have placed them above the illusion. 

The method of the Parmenides may be compared with the process of  purgation,  which Bacon sought to

introduce into philosophy.  Plato is  warning us  against two sorts of 'Idols of the Den':  first, his own  Ideas,

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two idols in particular,  'Unity' and 'Being,'  which had grown up in the preSocratic  philosophy, and were still

standing  in the way of all progress and  development of thought.  He does not say  with Bacon, 'Let us make

truth by experiment,' or 'From these vague and  inexact notions let us  turn to facts.'  The time has not yet

arrived for a  purely inductive  philosophy.  The instruments of thought must first be  forged, that  they may be

used hereafter by modern inquirers.  How, while  mankind  were disputing about universals, could they classify

phenomena?  How  could they investigate causes, when they had not as yet learned to  distinguish between a

cause and an end?  How could they make any  progress  in the sciences without first arranging them?  These are

the  deficiencies  which Plato is seeking to supply in an age when knowledge  was a shadow of a  name only.  In

the earlier dialogues the Socratic  conception of universals  is illustrated by his genius; in the Phaedrus  the

nature of division is  explained; in the Republic the law of  contradiction and the unity of  knowledge are

asserted; in the later  dialogues he is constantly engaged  both with the theory and practice  of classification.

These were the 'new  weapons,' as he terms them in  the Philebus, which he was preparing for the  use of some

who, in after  ages, would be found ready enough to disown their  obligations to the  great master, or rather,

perhaps, would be incapable of  understanding  them. 

Numberless fallacies, as we are often truly told, have originated  in a  confusion of the 'copula,' and the 'verb of

existence.'  Would  not the  distinction which Plato by the mouth of Parmenides makes  between 'One is  one'

and 'One has being' have saved us from this and  many similar  confusions?  We see again that a long period in

the  history of philosophy  was a barren tract, not uncultivated, but  unfruitful, because there was no  inquiry

into the relation of language  and thought, and the metaphysical  imagination was incapable of  supplying the

missing link between words and  things.  The famous  dispute between Nominalists and Realists would never

have been heard  of, if, instead of transferring the Platonic Ideas into a  crude Latin  phraseology, the spirit of

Plato had been truly understood and  appreciated.  Upon the term substance at least two celebrated  theological

controversies appear to hinge, which would not have  existed, or at least  not in their present form, if we had

'interrogated' the word substance, as  Plato has the notions of Unity  and Being.  These weeds of philosophy

have  struck their roots deep  into the soil, and are always tending to reappear,  sometimes in  newfangled

forms; while similar words, such as development,  evolution, law, and the like, are constantly put in the place

of  facts,  even by writers who profess to base truth entirely upon fact.  In an  unmetaphysical age there is

probably more metaphysics in the  common sense  (i.e. more a priori assumption) than in any other,  because

there is more  complete unconsciousness that we are resting on  our own ideas, while we  please ourselves with

the conviction that we  are resting on facts.  We do  not consider how much metaphysics are  required to place

us above  metaphysics, or how difficult it is to  prevent the forms of expression  which are ready made for our

use from  outrunning actual observation and  experiment. 

In the last century the educated world were astonished to find that  the  whole fabric of their ideas was falling

to pieces, because Hume  amused  himself by analyzing the word 'cause' into uniform sequence.  Then arose a

philosophy which, equally regardless of the history of  the mind, sought to  save mankind from scepticism by

assigning to our  notions of 'cause and  effect,' 'substance and accident,' 'whole and  part,' a necessary place in

human thought.  Without them we could have  no experience, and therefore  they were supposed to be prior to

experienceto be incrusted on the 'I';  although in the phraseology of  Kant there could be no transcendental

use of  them, or, in other words,  they were only applicable within the range of our  knowledge.  But into  the

origin of these ideas, which he obtains partly by  an analysis of  the proposition, partly by development of the

'ego,' he  never  inquiresthey seem to him to have a necessary existence; nor does he  attempt to analyse the

various senses in which the word 'cause' or  'substance' may be employed. 

The philosophy of Berkeley could never have had any meaning, even  to  himself, if he had first analyzed from

every point of view the  conception  of 'matter.'  This poor forgotten word (which was 'a very  good word' to

describe the simplest generalization of external  objects) is now superseded  in the vocabulary of physical

philosophers  by 'force,' which seems to be  accepted without any rigid examination  of its meaning, as if the

general  idea of 'force' in our minds  furnished an explanation of the infinite  variety of forces which exist  in the

universe.  A similar ambiguity occurs  in the use of the  favourite word 'law,' which is sometimes regarded as a


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mere  abstraction, and then elevated into a real power or entity, almost  taking the place of God.  Theology,

again, is full of undefined terms  which  have distracted the human mind for ages.  Mankind have reasoned

from them,  but not to them; they have drawn out the conclusions  without proving the  premises; they have

asserted the premises without  examining the terms.  The  passions of religious parties have been  roused to the

utmost about words of  which they could have given no  explanation, and which had really no  distinct

meaning.  One sort of  them, faith, grace, justification, have been  the symbols of one class  of disputes; as the

words substance, nature,  person, of another,  revelation, inspiration, and the like, of a third.  All  of them have

been the subject of endless reasonings and inferences; but a  spell has  hung over the minds of theologians or

philosophers which has  prevented  them from examining the words themselves.  Either the effort to  rise  above

and beyond their own first ideas was too great for them, or  there might, perhaps, have seemed to be an

irreverence in doing so.  About  the Divine Being Himself, in whom all true theological ideas  live and move,

men have spoken and reasoned much, and have fancied  that they instinctively  know Him.  But they hardly

suspect that under  the name of God even  Christians have included two characters or  natures as much opposed

as the  good and evil principle of the  Persians. 

To have the true use of words we must compare them with things; in  using  them we acknowledge that they

seldom give a perfect  representation of our  meaning.  In like manner when we interrogate our  ideas we find

that we are  not using them always in the sense which we  supposed.  And Plato, while he  criticizes the

inconsistency of his own  doctrine of universals and draws  out the endless consequences which  flow from the

assertion either that  'Being is' or that 'Being is not,'  by no means intends to deny the  existence of universals or

the unity  under which they are comprehended.  There is nothing further from his  thoughts than scepticism.

But before  proceeding he must examine the  foundations which he and others have been  laying; there is

nothing  true which is not from some point of view untrue,  nothing absolute  which is not also relative

(compare Republic). 

And so, in modern times, because we are called upon to analyze our  ideas  and to come to a distinct

understanding about the meaning of  words; because  we know that the powers of language are very unequal to

the subtlety of  nature or of mind, we do not therefore renounce the  use of them; but we  replace them in their

old connexion, having first  tested their meaning and  quality, and having corrected the error which  is involved

in them; or  rather always remembering to make allowance  for the adulteration or alloy  which they contain.

We cannot call a  new metaphysical world into existence  any more than we can frame a new  universal

language; in thought as in  speech, we are dependent on the  past.  We know that the words 'cause' and  'effect'

are very far from  representing to us the continuity or the  complexity of nature or the  different modes or

degrees in which phenomena  are connected.  Yet we  accept them as the best expression which we have of  the

correlation of  forces or objects.  We see that the term 'law' is a mere  abstraction,  under which laws of matter

and of mind, the law of nature and  the law  of the land are included, and some of these uses of the word are

confusing, because they introduce into one sphere of thought  associations  which belong to another; for

example, order or sequence  is apt to be  confounded with external compulsion and the internal  workings of the

mind  with their material antecedents.  Yet none of  them can be dispensed with;  we can only be on our guard

against the  error or confusion which arises out  of them.  Thus in the use of the  word 'substance' we are far

from supposing  that there is any  mysterious substratum apart from the objects which we  see, and we

acknowledge that the negative notion is very likely to become a  positive one.  Still we retain the word as a

convenient  generalization,  though not without a double sense, substance, and  essence, derived from the

twofold translation of the Greek ousia. 

So the human mind makes the reflection that God is not a person  like  ourselvesis not a cause like the

material causes in nature, nor  even an  intelligent cause like a human agentnor an individual, for  He is

universal; and that every possible conception which we can form  of Him is  limited by the human faculties.

We cannot by any effort of  thought or  exertion of faith be in and out of our own minds at the  same instant.

How  can we conceive Him under the forms of time and  space, who is out of time  and space?  How get rid of

such forms and  see Him as He is?  How can we  imagine His relation to the world or to  ourselves?


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Innumerable  contradictions follow from either of the two  alternatives, that God is or  that He is not.  Yet we

are far from  saying that we know nothing of Him,  because all that we know is  subject to the conditions of

human thought.  To  the old belief in Him  we return, but with corrections.  He is a person, but  not like

ourselves; a mind, but not a human mind; a cause, but not a  material  cause, nor yet a maker or artificer.  The

words which we use are  imperfect expressions of His true nature; but we do not therefore lose  faith in what is

best and highest in ourselves and in the world. 

'A little philosophy takes us away from God; a great deal brings us  back to  Him.'  When we begin to reflect,

our first thoughts respecting  Him and  ourselves are apt to be sceptical.  For we can analyze our  religious as

well as our other ideas; we can trace their history; we  can criticize their  perversion; we see that they are

relative to the  human mind and to one  another.  But when we have carried our criticism  to the furthest point,

they still remain, a necessity of our moral  nature, better known and  understood by us, and less liable to be

shaken, because we are more aware  of their necessary imperfection.  They come to us with 'better opinion,

better confirmation,' not  merely as the inspirations either of ourselves or  of another, but  deeply rooted in

history and in the human mind. 

PARMENIDES

by 

Plato 

Translated by Benjamin Jowett 

PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE:  Cephalus, Adeimantus, Glaucon, Antiphon,  Pythodorus, Socrates, Zeno,

Parmenides, Aristoteles. 

Cephalus rehearses a dialogue which is supposed to have been  narrated in  his presence by Antiphon, the

halfbrother of Adeimantus  and Glaucon, to  certain Clazomenians. 

We had come from our home at Clazomenae to Athens, and met  Adeimantus and  Glaucon in the Agora.

Welcome, Cephalus, said  Adeimantus, taking me by the  hand; is there anything which we can do  for you in

Athens? 

Yes; that is why I am here; I wish to ask a favour of you. 

What may that be? he said. 

I want you to tell me the name of your half brother, which I have  forgotten; he was a mere child when I last

came hither from  Clazomenae, but  that was a long time ago; his father's name, if I  remember rightly, was

Pyrilampes? 

Yes, he said, and the name of our brother, Antiphon; but why do you  ask? 

Let me introduce some countrymen of mine, I said; they are lovers  of  philosophy, and have heard that

Antiphon was intimate with a  certain  Pythodorus, a friend of Zeno, and remembers a conversation  which took

place  between Socrates, Zeno, and Parmenides many years  ago, Pythodorus having  often recited it to him. 

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And could we hear it? I asked. 

Nothing easier, he replied; when he was a youth he made a careful  study of  the piece; at present his thoughts

run in another direction;  like his  grandfather Antiphon he is devoted to horses.  But, if that  is what you  want,

let us go and look for him; he dwells at Melita,  which is quite near,  and he has only just left us to go home. 

Accordingly we went to look for him; he was at home, and in the act  of  giving a bridle to a smith to be fitted.

When he had done with the  smith,  his brothers told him the purpose of our visit; and he saluted  me as an

acquaintance whom he remembered from my former visit, and we  asked him to  repeat the dialogue.  At first

he was not very willing,  and complained of  the trouble, but at length he consented.  He told us  that Pythodorus

had  described to him the appearance of Parmenides and  Zeno; they came to  Athens, as he said, at the great

Panathenaea; the  former was, at the time  of his visit, about 65 years old, very white  with age, but well

favoured.  Zeno was nearly 40 years of age, tall and  fair to look upon; in the days of  his youth he was reported

to have  been beloved by Parmenides.  He said that  they lodged with Pythodorus  in the Ceramicus, outside the

wall, whither  Socrates, then a very  young man, came to see them, and many others with  him; they wanted to

hear the writings of Zeno, which had been brought to  Athens for the  first time on the occasion of their visit.

These Zeno  himself read to  them in the absence of Parmenides, and had very nearly  finished when

Pythodorus entered, and with him Parmenides and Aristoteles  who was  afterwards one of the Thirty, and

heard the little that remained of  the dialogue.  Pythodorus had heard Zeno repeat them before. 

When the recitation was completed, Socrates requested that the  first thesis  of the first argument might be read

over again, and this  having been done,  he said:  What is your meaning, Zeno?  Do you  maintain that if being is

many, it must be both like and unlike, and  that this is impossible, for  neither can the like be unlike, nor the

unlike likeis that your position? 

Just so, said Zeno. 

And if the unlike cannot be like, or the like unlike, then  according to  you, being could not be many; for this

would involve an  impossibility.  In  all that you say have you any other purpose except  to disprove the being of

the many? and is not each division of your  treatise intended to furnish a  separate proof of this, there being in

all as many proofs of the notbeing  of the many as you have composed  arguments?  Is that your meaning, or

have  I misunderstood you? 

No, said Zeno; you have correctly understood my general purpose. 

I see, Parmenides, said Socrates, that Zeno would like to be not  only one  with you in friendship but your

second self in his writings  too; he puts  what you say in another way, and would fain make believe  that he is

telling  us something which is new.  For you, in your poems,  say The All is one, and  of this you adduce

excellent proofs; and he on  the other hand says There is  no many; and on behalf of this he offers

overwhelming evidence.  You affirm  unity, he denies plurality.  And so  you deceive the world into believing

that you are saying different  things when really you are saying much the  same.  This is a strain of  art beyond

the reach of most of us. 

Yes, Socrates, said Zeno.  But although you are as keen as a  Spartan hound  in pursuing the track, you do not

fully apprehend the  true motive of the  composition, which is not really such an artificial  work as you

imagine;  for what you speak of was an accident; there was  no pretence of a great  purpose; nor any serious

intention of deceiving  the world.  The truth is,  that these writings of mine were meant to  protect the arguments

of  Parmenides against those who make fun of him  and seek to show the many  ridiculous and contradictory

results which  they suppose to follow from the  affirmation of the one.  My answer is  addressed to the partisans

of the  many, whose attack I return with  interest by retorting upon them that their  hypothesis of the being of

many, if carried out, appears to be still more  ridiculous than the  hypothesis of the being of one.  Zeal for my


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master led  me to write  the book in the days of my youth, but some one stole the copy;  and  therefore I had no

choice whether it should be published or not; the  motive, however, of writing, was not the ambition of an

elder man, but  the  pugnacity of a young one.  This you do not seem to see, Socrates;  though in  other respects,

as I was saying, your notion is a very just  one. 

I understand, said Socrates, and quite accept your account.  But  tell me,  Zeno, do you not further think that

there is an idea of  likeness in itself,  and another idea of unlikeness, which is the  opposite of likeness, and that

in these two, you and I and all other  things to which we apply the term  many, participatethings which

participate in likeness become in that  degree and manner like; and so  far as they participate in unlikeness

become  in that degree unlike, or  both like and unlike in the degree in which they  participate in both?  And

may not all things partake of both opposites, and  be both like  and unlike, by reason of this

participation?Where is the  wonder?  Now if a person could prove the absolute like to become unlike, or  the

absolute unlike to become like, that, in my opinion, would indeed  be a  wonder; but there is nothing

extraordinary, Zeno, in showing that  the  things which only partake of likeness and unlikeness experience

both.  Nor,  again, if a person were to show that all is one by  partaking of one, and at  the same time many by

partaking of many,  would that be very astonishing.  But if he were to show me that the  absolute one was

many, or the absolute  many one, I should be truly  amazed.  And so of all the rest:  I should be  surprised to hear

that  the natures or ideas themselves had these opposite  qualities; but not  if a person wanted to prove of me

that I was many and  also one.  When  he wanted to show that I was many he would say that I have  a right and

a left side, and a front and a back, and an upper and a lower  half,  for I cannot deny that I partake of multitude;

when, on the other  hand, he wants to prove that I am one, he will say, that we who are  here  assembled are

seven, and that I am one and partake of the one.  In both  instances he proves his case.  So again, if a person

shows  that such things  as wood, stones, and the like, being many are also  one, we admit that he  shows the

coexistence of the one and many, but  he does not show that the  many are one or the one many; he is uttering

not a paradox but a truism.  If however, as I just now suggested, some  one were to abstract simple  notions of

like, unlike, one, many, rest,  motion, and similar ideas, and  then to show that these admit of  admixture and

separation in themselves, I  should be very much  astonished.  This part of the argument appears to be  treated

by you,  Zeno, in a very spirited manner; but, as I was saying, I  should be far  more amazed if any one found in

the ideas themselves which  are  apprehended by reason, the same puzzle and entanglement which you have

shown to exist in visible objects. 

While Socrates was speaking, Pythodorus thought that Parmenides and  Zeno  were not altogether pleased at

the successive steps of the  argument; but  still they gave the closest attention, and often looked  at one another,

and  smiled as if in admiration of him.  When he had  finished, Parmenides  expressed their feelings in the

following  words: 

Socrates, he said, I admire the bent of your mind towards  philosophy; tell  me now, was this your own

distinction between ideas  in themselves and the  things which partake of them? and do you think  that there is

an idea of  likeness apart from the likeness which we  possess, and of the one and many,  and of the other things

which Zeno  mentioned? 

I think that there are such ideas, said Socrates. 

Parmenides proceeded:  And would you also make absolute ideas of  the just  and the beautiful and the good,

and of all that class? 

Yes, he said, I should. 

And would you make an idea of man apart from us and from all other  human  creatures, or of fire and water? 

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And would you feel equally undecided, Socrates, about things of  which the  mention may provoke a

smile?I mean such things as hair,  mud, dirt, or  anything else which is vile and paltry; would you  suppose

that each of  these has an idea distinct from the actual  objects with which we come into  contact, or not? 

Certainly not, said Socrates; visible things like these are such as  they  appear to us, and I am afraid that there

would be an absurdity in  assuming  any idea of them, although I sometimes get disturbed, and  begin to think

that there is nothing without an idea; but then again,  when I have taken up  this position, I run away, because I

am afraid  that I may fall into a  bottomless pit of nonsense, and perish; and so  I return to the ideas of  which I

was just now speaking, and occupy  myself with them. 

Yes, Socrates, said Parmenides; that is because you are still  young; the  time will come, if I am not mistaken,

when philosophy will  have a firmer  grasp of you, and then you will not despise even the  meanest things; at

your age, you are too much disposed to regard the  opinions of men.  But I  should like to know whether you

mean that  there are certain ideas of which  all other things partake, and from  which they derive their names;

that  similars, for example, become  similar, because they partake of similarity;  and great things become  great,

because they partake of greatness; and that  just and beautiful  things become just and beautiful, because they

partake  of justice and  beauty? 

Yes, certainly, said Socrates that is my meaning. 

Then each individual partakes either of the whole of the idea or  else of a  part of the idea?  Can there be any

other mode of  participation? 

There cannot be, he said. 

Then do you think that the whole idea is one, and yet, being one,  is in  each one of the many? 

Why not, Parmenides? said Socrates. 

Because one and the same thing will exist as a whole at the same  time in  many separate individuals, and will

therefore be in a state of  separation  from itself. 

Nay, but the idea may be like the day which is one and the same in  many  places at once, and yet continuous

with itself; in this way each  idea may  be one and the same in all at the same time. 

I like your way, Socrates, of making one in many places at once.  You mean  to say, that if I were to spread out

a sail and cover a  number of men,  there would be one whole including manyis not that  your meaning? 

I think so. 

And would you say that the whole sail includes each man, or a part  of it  only, and different parts different

men? 

The latter. 

Then, Socrates, the ideas themselves will be divisible, and things  which  participate in them will have a part of

them only and not the  whole idea  existing in each of them? 

That seems to follow. 

Then would you like to say, Socrates, that the one idea is really  divisible  and yet remains one? 


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Certainly not, he said. 

Suppose that you divide absolute greatness, and that of the many  great  things, each one is great in virtue of a

portion of greatness  less than  absolute greatnessis that conceivable? 

No. 

Or will each equal thing, if possessing some small portion of  equality less  than absolute equality, be equal to

some other thing by  virtue of that  portion only? 

Impossible. 

Or suppose one of us to have a portion of smallness; this is but a  part of  the small, and therefore the

absolutely small is greater; if  the absolutely  small be greater, that to which the part of the small  is added will

be  smaller and not greater than before. 

How absurd! 

Then in what way, Socrates, will all things participate in the  ideas, if  they are unable to participate in them

either as parts or  wholes? 

Indeed, he said, you have asked a question which is not easily  answered. 

Well, said Parmenides, and what do you say of another question? 

What question? 

I imagine that the way in which you are led to assume one idea of  each kind  is as follows:You see a

number of great objects, and when  you look at  them there seems to you to be one and the same idea (or

nature) in them  all; hence you conceive of greatness as one. 

Very true, said Socrates. 

And if you go on and allow your mind in like manner to embrace in  one view  the idea of greatness and of

great things which are not the  idea, and to  compare them, will not another greatness arise, which  will appear

to be the  source of all these? 

It would seem so. 

Then another idea of greatness now comes into view over and above  absolute  greatness, and the individuals

which partake of it; and then  another, over  and above all these, by virtue of which they will all be  great, and

so each  idea instead of being one will be infinitely  multiplied. 

But may not the ideas, asked Socrates, be thoughts only, and have  no proper  existence except in our minds,

Parmenides?  For in that case  each idea may  still be one, and not experience this infinite  multiplication. 

And can there be individual thoughts which are thoughts of nothing? 

Impossible, he said. 

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Yes. 

Of something which is or which is not? 

Of something which is. 

Must it not be of a single something, which the thought recognizes  as  attaching to all, being a single form or

nature? 

Yes. 

And will not the something which is apprehended as one and the same  in all,  be an idea? 

From that, again, there is no escape. 

Then, said Parmenides, if you say that everything else participates  in the  ideas, must you not say either that

everything is made up of  thoughts, and  that all things think; or that they are thoughts but  have no thought? 

The latter view, Parmenides, is no more rational than the previous  one.  In  my opinion, the ideas are, as it

were, patterns fixed in  nature, and other  things are like them, and resemblances of themwhat  is meant by

the  participation of other things in the ideas, is really  assimilation to them. 

But if, said he, the individual is like the idea, must not the idea  also be  like the individual, in so far as the

individual is a  resemblance of the  idea?  That which is like, cannot be conceived of  as other than the like of

like. 

Impossible. 

And when two things are alike, must they not partake of the same  idea? 

They must. 

And will not that of which the two partake, and which makes them  alike, be  the idea itself? 

Certainly. 

Then the idea cannot be like the individual, or the individual like  the  idea; for if they are alike, some further

idea of likeness will  always be  coming to light, and if that be like anything else, another;  and new ideas  will

be always arising, if the idea resembles that which  partakes of it? 

Quite true. 

The theory, then, that other things participate in the ideas by  resemblance, has to be given up, and some other

mode of participation  devised? 

It would seem so. 

Do you see then, Socrates, how great is the difficulty of affirming  the  ideas to be absolute? 

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And, further, let me say that as yet you only understand a small  part of  the difficulty which is involved if you

make of each thing a  single idea,  parting it off from other things. 

What difficulty? he said. 

There are many, but the greatest of all is this:If an opponent  argues  that these ideas, being such as we say

they ought to be, must  remain  unknown, no one can prove to him that he is wrong, unless he  who denies  their

existence be a man of great ability and knowledge,  and is willing to  follow a long and laborious

demonstration; he will  remain unconvinced, and  still insist that they cannot be known. 

What do you mean, Parmenides? said Socrates. 

In the first place, I think, Socrates, that you, or any one who  maintains  the existence of absolute essences, will

admit that they  cannot exist in  us. 

No, said Socrates; for then they would be no longer absolute. 

True, he said; and therefore when ideas are what they are in  relation to  one another, their essence is

determined by a relation  among themselves,  and has nothing to do with the resemblances, or  whatever they

are to be  termed, which are in our sphere, and from  which we receive this or that  name when we partake of

them.  And the  things which are within our sphere  and have the same names with them,  are likewise only

relative to one  another, and not to the ideas which  have the same names with them, but  belong to themselves

and not to  them. 

What do you mean? said Socrates. 

I may illustrate my meaning in this way, said Parmenides:A master  has a  slave; now there is nothing

absolute in the relation between  them, which is  simply a relation of one man to another.  But there is  also an

idea of  mastership in the abstract, which is relative to the  idea of slavery in the  abstract.  These natures have

nothing to do  with us, nor we with them; they  are concerned with themselves only,  and we with ourselves.  Do

you see my  meaning? 

Yes, said Socrates, I quite see your meaning. 

And will not knowledgeI mean absolute knowledgeanswer to  absolute  truth? 

Certainly. 

And each kind of absolute knowledge will answer to each kind of  absolute  being? 

Yes. 

But the knowledge which we have, will answer to the truth which we  have;  and again, each kind of

knowledge which we have, will be a  knowledge of  each kind of being which we have? 

Certainly. 

But the ideas themselves, as you admit, we have not, and cannot  have? 

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And the absolute natures or kinds are known severally by the  absolute idea  of knowledge? 

Yes. 

And we have not got the idea of knowledge? 

No. 

Then none of the ideas are known to us, because we have no share in  absolute knowledge? 

I suppose not. 

Then the nature of the beautiful in itself, and of the good in  itself, and  all other ideas which we suppose to

exist absolutely, are  unknown to us? 

It would seem so. 

I think that there is a stranger consequence still. 

What is it? 

Would you, or would you not say, that absolute knowledge, if there  is such  a thing, must be a far more exact

knowledge than our  knowledge; and the  same of beauty and of the rest? 

Yes. 

And if there be such a thing as participation in absolute  knowledge, no one  is more likely than God to have

this most exact  knowledge? 

Certainly. 

But then, will God, having absolute knowledge, have a knowledge of  human  things? 

Why not? 

Because, Socrates, said Parmenides, we have admitted that the ideas  are not  valid in relation to human things;

nor human things in  relation to them;  the relations of either are limited to their  respective spheres. 

Yes, that has been admitted. 

And if God has this perfect authority, and perfect knowledge, his  authority  cannot rule us, nor his knowledge

know us, or any human  thing; just as our  authority does not extend to the gods, nor our  knowledge know

anything  which is divine, so by parity of reason they,  being gods, are not our  masters, neither do they know

the things of  men. 

Yet, surely, said Socrates, to deprive God of knowledge is  monstrous. 

These, Socrates, said Parmenides, are a few, and only a few of the  difficulties in which we are involved if

ideas really are and we  determine  each one of them to be an absolute unity.  He who hears what  may be said

against them will deny the very existence of themand  even if they do  exist, he will say that they must of

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now,  will be very difficult to convince; a man  must be gifted with very  considerable ability before he can

learn that  everything has a class and an  absolute essence; and still more  remarkable will he be who discovers

all  these things for himself, and  having thoroughly investigated them is able  to teach them to others. 

I agree with you, Parmenides, said Socrates; and what you say is  very much  to my mind. 

And yet, Socrates, said Parmenides, if a man, fixing his attention  on these  and the like difficulties, does away

with ideas of things and  will not  admit that every individual thing has its own determinate  idea which is

always one and the same, he will have nothing on which  his mind can rest;  and so he will utterly destroy the

power of  reasoning, as you seem to me to  have particularly noted. 

Very true, he said. 

But, then, what is to become of philosophy?  Whither shall we turn,  if the  ideas are unknown? 

I certainly do not see my way at present. 

Yes, said Parmenides; and I think that this arises, Socrates, out  of your  attempting to define the beautiful, the

just, the good, and  the ideas  generally, without sufficient previous training.  I noticed  your  deficiency, when I

heard you talking here with your friend  Aristoteles, the  day before yesterday.  The impulse that carries you

towards philosophy is  assuredly noble and divine; but there is an art  which is called by the  vulgar idle talking,

and which is often  imagined to be useless; in that you  must train and exercise yourself,  now that you are

young, or truth will  elude your grasp. 

And what is the nature of this exercise, Parmenides, which you  would  recommend? 

That which you heard Zeno practising; at the same time, I give you  credit  for saying to him that you did not

care to examine the  perplexity in  reference to visible things, or to consider the question  that way; but only  in

reference to objects of thought, and to what may  be called ideas. 

Why, yes, he said, there appears to me to be no difficulty in  showing by  this method that visible things are

like and unlike and may  experience  anything. 

Quite true, said Parmenides; but I think that you should go a step  further,  and consider not only the

consequences which flow from a  given hypothesis,  but also the consequences which flow from denying  the

hypothesis; and that  will be still better training for you. 

What do you mean? he said. 

I mean, for example, that in the case of this very hypothesis of  Zeno's  about the many, you should inquire not

only what will be the  consequences  to the many in relation to themselves and to the one, and  to the one in

relation to itself and the many, on the hypothesis of  the being of the  many, but also what will be the

consequences to the  one and the many in  their relation to themselves and to each other, on  the opposite

hypothesis.  Or, again, if likeness is or is not, what  will be the consequences in  either of these cases to the

subjects of  the hypothesis, and to other  things, in relation both to themselves  and to one another, and so of

unlikeness; and the same holds good of  motion and rest, of generation and  destruction, and even of being and

notbeing.  In a word, when you suppose  anything to be or not to be,  or to be in any way affected, you must

look at  the consequences in  relation to the thing itself, and to any other things  which you  choose,to each of

them singly, to more than one, and to all;  and so  of other things, you must look at them in relation to

themselves and  to anything else which you suppose either to be or not to be, if you  would  train yourself

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That, Parmenides, is a tremendous business of which you speak, and  I do not  quite understand you; will you

take some hypothesis and go  through the  steps?then I shall apprehend you better. 

That, Socrates, is a serious task to impose on a man of my years. 

Then will you, Zeno? said Socrates. 

Zeno answered with a smile:Let us make our petition to Parmenides  himself, who is quite right in saying

that you are hardly aware of the  extent of the task which you are imposing on him; and if there were  more of

us I should not ask him, for these are not subjects which any  one,  especially at his age, can well speak of

before a large audience;  most  people are not aware that this roundabout progress through all  things is  the only

way in which the mind can attain truth and wisdom.  And therefore,  Parmenides, I join in the request of

Socrates, that I  may hear the process  again which I have not heard for a long time. 

When Zeno had thus spoken, Pythodorus, according to Antiphon's  report of  him, said, that he himself and

Aristoteles and the whole  company entreated  Parmenides to give an example of the process.  I  cannot refuse,

said  Parmenides; and yet I feel rather like Ibycus,  who, when in his old age,  against his will, he fell in love,

compared  himself to an old racehorse,  who was about to run in a chariot race,  shaking with fear at the course

he  knew so wellthis was his simile  of himself.  And I also experience a  trembling when I remember

through  what an ocean of words I have to wade at  my time of life.  But I must  indulge you, as Zeno says that I

ought, and we  are alone.  Where shall  I begin?  And what shall be our first hypothesis,  if I am to attempt  this

laborious pastime?  Shall I begin with myself, and  take my own  hypothesis the one? and consider the

consequences which follow  on the  supposition either of the being or of the notbeing of one? 

By all means, said Zeno. 

And who will answer me? he said.  Shall I propose the youngest?  He  will  not make difficulties and will be the

most likely to say what he  thinks;  and his answers will give me time to breathe. 

I am the one whom you mean, Parmenides, said Aristoteles; for I am  the  youngest and at your service.  Ask,

and I will answer. 

Parmenides proceeded: 1.a. If one is, he said, the one cannot be  many? 

Impossible. 

Then the one cannot have parts, and cannot be a whole? 

Why not? 

Because every part is part of a whole; is it not? 

Yes. 

And what is a whole? would not that of which no part is wanting be  a whole? 

Certainly. 

Then, in either case, the one would be made up of parts; both as  being a  whole, and also as having parts? 

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And in either case, the one would be many, and not one? 

True. 

But, surely, it ought to be one and not many? 

It ought. 

Then, if the one is to remain one, it will not be a whole, and will  not  have parts? 

No. 

But if it has no parts, it will have neither beginning, middle, nor  end;  for these would of course be parts of it. 

Right. 

But then, again, a beginning and an end are the limits of  everything? 

Certainly. 

Then the one, having neither beginning nor end, is unlimited? 

Yes, unlimited. 

And therefore formless; for it cannot partake either of round or  straight. 

But why? 

Why, because the round is that of which all the extreme points are  equidistant from the centre? 

Yes. 

And the straight is that of which the centre intercepts the view of  the  extremes? 

True. 

Then the one would have parts and would be many, if it partook  either of a  straight or of a circular form? 

Assuredly. 

But having no parts, it will be neither straight nor round? 

Right. 

And, being of such a nature, it cannot be in any place, for it  cannot be  either in another or in itself. 

How so? 

Because if it were in another, it would be encircled by that in  which it  was, and would touch it at many places

and with many parts;  but that which  is one and indivisible, and does not partake of a  circular nature, cannot

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Certainly not. 

But if, on the other hand, one were in itself, it would also be  contained  by nothing else but itself; that is to

say, if it were  really in itself;  for nothing can be in anything which does not  contain it. 

Impossible. 

But then, that which contains must be other than that which is  contained?  for the same whole cannot do and

suffer both at once; and  if so, one will  be no longer one, but two? 

True. 

Then one cannot be anywhere, either in itself or in another? 

No. 

Further consider, whether that which is of such a nature can have  either  rest or motion. 

Why not? 

Why, because the one, if it were moved, would be either moved in  place or  changed in nature; for these are

the only kinds of motion. 

Yes. 

And the one, when it changes and ceases to be itself, cannot be any  longer  one. 

It cannot. 

It cannot therefore experience the sort of motion which is change  of  nature? 

Clearly not. 

Then can the motion of the one be in place? 

Perhaps. 

But if the one moved in place, must it not either move round and  round in  the same place, or from one place

to another? 

It must. 

And that which moves in a circle must rest upon a centre; and that  which  goes round upon a centre must have

parts which are different  from the  centre; but that which has no centre and no parts cannot  possibly be  carried

round upon a centre? 

Impossible. 

But perhaps the motion of the one consists in change of place? 

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And have we not already shown that it cannot be in anything? 

Yes. 

Then its coming into being in anything is still more impossible; is  it not? 

I do not see why. 

Why, because anything which comes into being in anything, can  neither as  yet be in that other thing while

still coming into being,  nor be altogether  out of it, if already coming into being in it. 

Certainly not. 

And therefore whatever comes into being in another must have parts,  and  then one part may be in, and

another part out of that other; but  that which  has no parts can never be at one and the same time neither

wholly within  nor wholly without anything. 

True. 

And is there not a still greater impossibility in that which has no  parts,  and is not a whole, coming into being

anywhere, since it cannot  come into  being either as a part or as a whole? 

Clearly. 

Then it does not change place by revolving in the same spot, nor by  going  somewhere and coming into being

in something; nor again, by  change in  itself? 

Very true. 

Then in respect of any kind of motion the one is immoveable? 

Immoveable. 

But neither can the one be in anything, as we affirm? 

Yes, we said so. 

Then it is never in the same? 

Why not? 

Because if it were in the same it would be in something. 

Certainly. 

And we said that it could not be in itself, and could not be in  other? 

True. 

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It would seem not. 

But that which is never in the same place is never quiet or at  rest? 

Never. 

One then, as would seem, is neither at rest nor in motion? 

It certainly appears so. 

Neither will it be the same with itself or other; nor again, other  than  itself or other. 

How is that? 

If other than itself it would be other than one, and would not be  one. 

True. 

And if the same with other, it would be that other, and not itself;  so that  upon this supposition too, it would

not have the nature of  one, but would  be other than one? 

It would. 

Then it will not be the same with other, or other than itself? 

It will not. 

Neither will it be other than other, while it remains one; for not  one, but  only other, can be other than other,

and nothing else. 

True. 

Then not by virtue of being one will it be other? 

Certainly not. 

But if not by virtue of being one, not by virtue of itself; and if  not by  virtue of itself, not itself, and itself not

being other at  all, will not  be other than anything? 

Right. 

Neither will one be the same with itself. 

How not? 

Surely the nature of the one is not the nature of the same. 

Why not? 

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What of that? 

Anything which becomes the same with the many, necessarily becomes  many and  not one. 

True. 

But, if there were no difference between the one and the same, when  a thing  became the same, it would

always become one; and when it  became one, the  same? 

Certainly. 

And, therefore, if one be the same with itself, it is not one with  itself,  and will therefore be one and also not

one. 

Surely that is impossible. 

And therefore the one can neither be other than other, nor the same  with  itself. 

Impossible. 

And thus the one can neither be the same, nor other, either in  relation to  itself or other? 

No. 

Neither will the one be like anything or unlike itself or other. 

Why not? 

Because likeness is sameness of affections. 

Yes. 

And sameness has been shown to be of a nature distinct from  oneness? 

That has been shown. 

But if the one had any other affection than that of being one, it  would be  affected in such a way as to be more

than one; which is  impossible. 

True. 

Then the one can never be so affected as to be the same either with  another  or with itself? 

Clearly not. 

Then it cannot be like another, or like itself? 

No. 

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It would. 

That which is affected otherwise than itself or another, will be  unlike  itself or another, for sameness of

affections is likeness. 

True. 

But the one, as appears, never being affected otherwise, is never  unlike  itself or other? 

Never. 

Then the one will never be either like or unlike itself or other? 

Plainly not. 

Again, being of this nature, it can neither be equal nor unequal  either to  itself or to other. 

How is that? 

Why, because the one if equal must be of the same measures as that  to which  it is equal. 

True. 

And if greater or less than things which are commensurable with it,  the one  will have more measures than

that which is less, and fewer  than that which  is greater? 

Yes. 

And so of things which are not commensurate with it, the one will  have  greater measures than that which is

less and smaller than that  which is  greater. 

Certainly. 

But how can that which does not partake of sameness, have either  the same  measures or have anything else

the same? 

Impossible. 

And not having the same measures, the one cannot be equal either  with  itself or with another? 

It appears so. 

But again, whether it have fewer or more measures, it will have as  many  parts as it has measures; and thus

again the one will be no  longer one but  will have as many parts as measures. 

Right. 

And if it were of one measure, it would be equal to that measure;  yet it  has been shown to be incapable of

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Then it will neither partake of one measure, nor of many, nor of  few, nor  of the same at all, nor be equal to

itself or another; nor be  greater or  less than itself, or other? 

Certainly. 

Well, and do we suppose that one can be older, or younger than  anything, or  of the same age with it? 

Why not? 

Why, because that which is of the same age with itself or other,  must  partake of equality or likeness of time;

and we said that the one  did not  partake either of equality or of likeness? 

We did say so. 

And we also said, that it did not partake of inequality or  unlikeness. 

Very true. 

How then can one, being of this nature, be either older or younger  than  anything, or have the same age with

it? 

In no way. 

Then one cannot be older or younger, or of the same age, either  with itself  or with another? 

Clearly not. 

Then the one, being of this nature, cannot be in time at all; for  must not  that which is in time, be always

growing older than itself? 

Certainly. 

And that which is older, must always be older than something which  is  younger? 

True. 

Then, that which becomes older than itself, also becomes at the  same time  younger than itself, if it is to have

something to become  older than. 

What do you mean? 

I mean this:A thing does not need to become different from  another thing  which is already different; it IS

different, and if its  different has  become, it has become different; if its different will  be, it will be  different;

but of that which is becoming different,  there cannot have been,  or be about to be, or yet be, a differentthe

only different possible is  one which is becoming. 

That is inevitable. 

But, surely, the elder is a difference relative to the younger, and  to  nothing else. 

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Then that which becomes older than itself must also, at the same  time,  become younger than itself? 

Yes. 

But again, it is true that it cannot become for a longer or for a  shorter  time than itself, but it must become, and

be, and have become,  and be about  to be, for the same time with itself? 

That again is inevitable. 

Then things which are in time, and partake of time, must in every  case, I  suppose, be of the same age with

themselves; and must also  become at once  older and younger than themselves? 

Yes. 

But the one did not partake of those affections? 

Not at all. 

Then it does not partake of time, and is not in any time? 

So the argument shows. 

Well, but do not the expressions 'was,' and 'has become,' and 'was  becoming,' signify a participation of past

time? 

Certainly. 

And do not 'will be,' 'will become,' 'will have become,' signify a  participation of future time? 

Yes. 

And 'is,' or 'becomes,' signifies a participation of present time? 

Certainly. 

And if the one is absolutely without participation in time, it  never had  become, or was becoming, or was at

any time, or is now  become or is  becoming, or is, or will become, or will have become, or  will be,  hereafter. 

Most true. 

But are there any modes of partaking of being other than these? 

There are none. 

Then the one cannot possibly partake of being? 

That is the inference. 

Then the one is not at all? 

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Then the one does not exist in such way as to be one; for if it  were and  partook of being, it would already be;

but if the argument is  to be  trusted, the one neither is nor is one? 

True. 

But that which is not admits of no attribute or relation? 

Of course not. 

Then there is no name, nor expression, nor perception, nor opinion,  nor  knowledge of it? 

Clearly not. 

Then it is neither named, nor expressed, nor opined, nor known, nor  does  anything that is perceive it. 

So we must infer. 

But can all this be true about the one? 

I think not. 

1.b.  Suppose, now, that we return once more to the original  hypothesis;  let us see whether, on a further

review, any new aspect of  the question  appears. 

I shall be very happy to do so. 

We say that we have to work out together all the consequences,  whatever  they may be, which follow, if the

one is? 

Yes. 

Then we will begin at the beginning:If one is, can one be, and  not  partake of being? 

Impossible. 

Then the one will have being, but its being will not be the same  with the  one; for if the same, it would not be

the being of the one;  nor would the  one have participated in being, for the proposition that  one is would have

been identical with the proposition that one is one;  but our hypothesis is  not if one is one, what will follow,

but if one  is:am I not right? 

Quite right. 

We mean to say, that being has not the same significance as one? 

Of course. 

And when we put them together shortly, and say 'One is,' that is  equivalent  to saying, 'partakes of being'? 

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Once more then let us ask, if one is what will follow.  Does not  this  hypothesis necessarily imply that one is of

such a nature as to  have parts? 

How so? 

In this way:If being is predicated of the one, if the one is, and  one of  being, if being is one; and if being

and one are not the same;  and since  the one, which we have assumed, is, must not the whole, if  it is one,  itself

be, and have for its parts, one and being? 

Certainly. 

And is each of these partsone and beingto be simply called a  part, or  must the word 'part' be relative to

the word 'whole'? 

The latter. 

Then that which is one is both a whole and has a part? 

Certainly. 

Again, of the parts of the one, if it isI mean being and  onedoes either  fail to imply the other? is the one

wanting to being,  or being to the one? 

Impossible. 

Thus, each of the parts also has in turn both one and being, and is  at the  least made up of two parts; and the

same principle goes on for  ever, and  every part whatever has always these two parts; for being  always

involves  one, and one being; so that one is always  disappearing, and becoming two. 

Certainly. 

And so the one, if it is, must be infinite in multiplicity? 

Clearly. 

Let us take another direction. 

What direction? 

We say that the one partakes of being and therefore it is? 

Yes. 

And in this way, the one, if it has being, has turned out to be  many? 

True. 

But now, let us abstract the one which, as we say, partakes of  being, and  try to imagine it apart from that of

which, as we say, it  partakeswill  this abstract one be one only or many? 

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Let us see:Must not the being of one be other than one? for the  one is  not being, but, considered as one,

only partook of being? 

Certainly. 

If being and the one be two different things, it is not because the  one is  one that it is other than being; nor

because being is being  that it is  other than the one; but they differ from one another in  virtue of otherness  and

difference. 

Certainly. 

So that the other is not the sameeither with the one or with  being? 

Certainly not. 

And therefore whether we take being and the other, or being and the  one, or  the one and the other, in every

such case we take two things,  which may be  rightly called both. 

How so. 

In this wayyou may speak of being? 

Yes. 

And also of one? 

Yes. 

Then now we have spoken of either of them? 

Yes. 

Well, and when I speak of being and one, I speak of them both? 

Certainly. 

And if I speak of being and the other, or of the one and the  other,in any  such case do I not speak of both? 

Yes. 

And must not that which is correctly called both, be also two? 

Undoubtedly. 

And of two things how can either by any possibility not be one? 

It cannot. 

Then, if the individuals of the pair are together two, they must be  severally one? 

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And if each of them is one, then by the addition of any one to any  pair,  the whole becomes three? 

Yes. 

And three are odd, and two are even? 

Of course. 

And if there are two there must also be twice, and if there are  three there  must be thrice; that is, if twice one

makes two, and  thrice one three? 

Certainly. 

There are two, and twice, and therefore there must be twice two;  and there  are three, and there is thrice, and

therefore there must be  thrice three? 

Of course. 

If there are three and twice, there is twice three; and if there  are  two and thrice, there is thrice two? 

Undoubtedly. 

Here, then, we have even taken even times, and odd taken odd times,  and  even taken odd times, and odd

taken even times. 

True. 

And if this is so, does any number remain which has no necessity to  be? 

None whatever. 

Then if one is, number must also be? 

It must. 

But if there is number, there must also be many, and infinite  multiplicity  of being; for number is infinite in

multiplicity, and  partakes also of  being:  am I not right? 

Certainly. 

And if all number participates in being, every part of number will  also  participate? 

Yes. 

Then being is distributed over the whole multitude of things, and  nothing  that is, however small or however

great, is devoid of it?  And, indeed, the  very supposition of this is absurd, for how can that  which is, be devoid

of  being? 

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And it is divided into the greatest and into the smallest, and into  being  of all sizes, and is broken up more than

all things; the  divisions of it  have no limit. 

True. 

Then it has the greatest number of parts? 

Yes, the greatest number. 

Is there any of these which is a part of being, and yet no part? 

Impossible. 

But if it is at all and so long as it is, it must be one, and  cannot be  none? 

Certainly. 

Then the one attaches to every single part of being, and does not  fail in  any part, whether great or small, or

whatever may be the size  of it? 

True. 

But reflect:Can one, in its entirety, be in many places at the  same time? 

No; I see the impossibility of that. 

And if not in its entirety, then it is divided; for it cannot be  present  with all the parts of being, unless divided. 

True. 

And that which has parts will be as many as the parts are? 

Certainly. 

Then we were wrong in saying just now, that being was distributed  into the  greatest number of parts.  For it is

not distributed into  parts more than  the one, into parts equal to the one; the one is never  wanting to being, or

being to the one, but being two they are coequal  and coextensive. 

Certainly that is true. 

The one itself, then, having been broken up into parts by being, is  many  and infinite? 

True. 

Then not only the one which has being is many, but the one itself  distributed by being, must also be many? 

Certainly. 

Further, inasmuch as the parts are parts of a whole, the one, as a  whole,  will be limited; for are not the parts

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Certainly. 

And that which contains, is a limit? 

Of course. 

Then the one if it has being is one and many, whole and parts,  having  limits and yet unlimited in number? 

Clearly. 

And because having limits, also having extremes? 

Certainly. 

And if a whole, having beginning and middle and end.  For can  anything be a  whole without these three?  And

if any one of them is  wanting to anything,  will that any longer be a whole? 

No. 

Then the one, as appears, will have beginning, middle, and end. 

It will. 

But, again, the middle will be equidistant from the extremes; or it  would  not be in the middle? 

Yes. 

Then the one will partake of figure, either rectilinear or round,  or a  union of the two? 

True. 

And if this is the case, it will be both in itself and in another  too. 

How? 

Every part is in the whole, and none is outside the whole. 

True. 

And all the parts are contained by the whole? 

Yes. 

And the one is all its parts, and neither more nor less than all? 

No. 

And the one is the whole? 

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But if all the parts are in the whole, and the one is all of them  and the  whole, and they are all contained by the

whole, the one will  be contained  by the one; and thus the one will be in itself. 

That is true. 

But then, again, the whole is not in the partsneither in all the  parts,  nor in some one of them.  For if it is in

all, it must be in  one; for if  there were any one in which it was not, it could not be in  all the parts;  for the part

in which it is wanting is one of all, and  if the whole is not  in this, how can it be in them all? 

It cannot. 

Nor can the whole be in some of the parts; for if the whole were in  some of  the parts, the greater would be in

the less, which is  impossible. 

Yes, impossible. 

But if the whole is neither in one, nor in more than one, nor in  all of the  parts, it must be in something else, or

cease to be  anywhere at all? 

Certainly. 

If it were nowhere, it would be nothing; but being a whole, and not  being  in itself, it must be in another. 

Very true. 

The one then, regarded as a whole, is in another, but regarded as  being all  its parts, is in itself; and therefore

the one must be  itself in itself and  also in another. 

Certainly. 

The one then, being of this nature, is of necessity both at rest  and in  motion? 

How? 

The one is at rest since it is in itself, for being in one, and not  passing  out of this, it is in the same, which is

itself. 

True. 

And that which is ever in the same, must be ever at rest? 

Certainly. 

Well, and must not that, on the contrary, which is ever in other,  never be  in the same; and if never in the

same, never at rest, and if  not at rest,  in motion? 

True. 

Then the one being always itself in itself and other, must always  be both  at rest and in motion? 

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And must be the same with itself, and other than itself; and also  the same  with the others, and other than the

others; this follows from  its previous  affections. 

How so? 

Everything in relation to every other thing, is either the same or  other;  or if neither the same nor other, then in

the relation of a  part to a  whole, or of a whole to a part. 

Clearly. 

And is the one a part of itself? 

Certainly not. 

Since it is not a part in relation to itself it cannot be related  to itself  as whole to part? 

It cannot. 

But is the one other than one? 

No. 

And therefore not other than itself? 

Certainly not. 

If then it be neither other, nor a whole, nor a part in relation to  itself,  must it not be the same with itself? 

Certainly. 

But then, again, a thing which is in another place from 'itself,'  if this  'itself' remains in the same place with

itself, must be other  than  'itself,' for it will be in another place? 

True. 

Then the one has been shown to be at once in itself and in another? 

Yes. 

Thus, then, as appears, the one will be other than itself? 

True. 

Well, then, if anything be other than anything, will it not be  other than  that which is other? 

Certainly. 

And will not all things that are not one, be other than the one,  and the  one other than the notone? 

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Then the one will be other than the others? 

True. 

But, consider:Are not the absolute same, and the absolute other,  opposites to one another? 

Of course. 

Then will the same ever be in the other, or the other in the same? 

They will not. 

If then the other is never in the same, there is nothing in which  the other  is during any space of time; for

during that space of time,  however small,  the other would be in the same.  Is not that true? 

Yes. 

And since the other is never in the same, it can never be in  anything that  is. 

True. 

Then the other will never be either in the notone, or in the one? 

Certainly not. 

Then not by reason of otherness is the one other than the notone,  or the  notone other than the one. 

No. 

Nor by reason of themselves will they be other than one another, if  not  partaking of the other. 

How can they be? 

But if they are not other, either by reason of themselves or of the  other,  will they not altogether escape being

other than one another? 

They will. 

Again, the notone cannot partake of the one; otherwise it would  not have  been notone, but would have

been in some way one. 

True. 

Nor can the notone be number; for having number, it would not have  been  notone at all. 

It would not. 

Again, is the notone part of the one; or rather, would it not in  that case  partake of the one? 

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If then, in every point of view, the one and the notone are  distinct, then  neither is the one part or whole of

the notone, nor is  the notone part or  whole of the one? 

No. 

But we said that things which are neither parts nor wholes of one  another,  nor other than one another, will be

the same with one  another:so we said? 

Yes. 

Then shall we say that the one, being in this relation to the  notone, is  the same with it? 

Let us say so. 

Then it is the same with itself and the others, and also other than  itself  and the others. 

That appears to be the inference. 

And it will also be like and unlike itself and the others? 

Perhaps. 

Since the one was shown to be other than the others, the others  will also  be other than the one. 

Yes. 

And the one is other than the others in the same degree that the  others are  other than it, and neither more nor

less? 

True. 

And if neither more nor less, then in a like degree? 

Yes. 

In virtue of the affection by which the one is other than others  and others  in like manner other than it, the one

will be affected like  the others and  the others like the one. 

How do you mean? 

I may take as an illustration the case of names:  You give a name  to a  thing? 

Yes. 

And you may say the name once or oftener? 

Yes. 

And when you say it once, you mention that of which it is the name?  and  when more than once, is it

something else which you mention? or  must it  always be the same thing of which you speak, whether you

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Of course it is the same. 

And is not 'other' a name given to a thing? 

Certainly. 

Whenever, then, you use the word 'other,' whether once or oftener,  you name  that of which it is the name, and

to no other do you give the  name? 

True. 

Then when we say that the others are other than the one, and the  one other  than the others, in repeating the

word 'other' we speak of  that nature to  which the name is applied, and of no other? 

Quite true. 

Then the one which is other than others, and the other which is  other than  the one, in that the word 'other' is

applied to both, will  be in the same  condition; and that which is in the same condition is  like? 

Yes. 

Then in virtue of the affection by which the one is other than the  others,  every thing will be like every thing,

for every thing is other  than every  thing. 

True. 

Again, the like is opposed to the unlike? 

Yes. 

And the other to the same? 

True again. 

And the one was also shown to be the same with the others? 

Yes. 

And to be the same with the others is the opposite of being other  than the  others? 

Certainly. 

And in that it was other it was shown to be like? 

Yes. 

But in that it was the same it will be unlike by virtue of the  opposite  affection to that which made it like; and

this was the  affection of  otherness. 

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The same then will make it unlike; otherwise it will not be the  opposite of  the other. 

True. 

Then the one will be both like and unlike the others; like in so  far as it  is other, and unlike in so far as it is the

same. 

Yes, that argument may be used. 

And there is another argument. 

What? 

In so far as it is affected in the same way it is not affected  otherwise,  and not being affected otherwise is not

unlike, and not  being unlike, is  like; but in so far as it is affected by other it is  otherwise, and being  otherwise

affected is unlike. 

True. 

Then because the one is the same with the others and other than the  others,  on either of these two grounds, or

on both of them, it will be  both like  and unlike the others? 

Certainly. 

And in the same way as being other than itself and the same with  itself, on  either of these two grounds and on

both of them, it will be  like and unlike  itself? 

Of course. 

Again, how far can the one touch or not touch itself and  others?consider. 

I am considering. 

The one was shown to be in itself which was a whole? 

True. 

And also in other things? 

Yes. 

In so far as it is in other things it would touch other things, but  in so  far as it is in itself it would be debarred

from touching them,  and would  touch itself only. 

Clearly. 

Then the inference is that it would touch both? 

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But what do you say to a new point of view?  Must not that which is  to  touch another be next to that which it

is to touch, and occupy the  place  nearest to that in which what it touches is situated? 

True. 

Then the one, if it is to touch itself, ought to be situated next  to  itself, and occupy the place next to that in

which itself is? 

It ought. 

And that would require that the one should be two, and be in two  places at  once, and this, while it is one, will

never happen. 

No. 

Then the one cannot touch itself any more than it can be two? 

It cannot. 

Neither can it touch others. 

Why not? 

The reason is, that whatever is to touch another must be in  separation  from, and next to, that which it is to

touch, and no third  thing can be  between them. 

True. 

Two things, then, at the least are necessary to make contact  possible? 

They are. 

And if to the two a third be added in due order, the number of  terms will  be three, and the contacts two? 

Yes. 

And every additional term makes one additional contact, whence it  follows  that the contacts are one less in

number than the terms; the  first two  terms exceeded the number of contacts by one, and the whole  number of

terms  exceeds the whole number of contacts by one in like  manner; and for every  one which is afterwards

added to the number of  terms, one contact is added  to the contacts. 

True. 

Whatever is the whole number of things, the contacts will be always  one  less. 

True. 

But if there be only one, and not two, there will be no contact? 

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And do we not say that the others being other than the one are not  one and  have no part in the one? 

True. 

Then they have no number, if they have no one in them? 

Of course not. 

Then the others are neither one nor two, nor are they called by the  name of  any number? 

No. 

One, then, alone is one, and two do not exist? 

Clearly not. 

And if there are not two, there is no contact? 

There is not. 

Then neither does the one touch the others, nor the others the one,  if  there is no contact? 

Certainly not. 

For all which reasons the one touches and does not touch itself and  the  others? 

True. 

Furtheris the one equal and unequal to itself and others? 

How do you mean? 

If the one were greater or less than the others, or the others  greater or  less than the one, they would not be

greater or less than  each other in  virtue of their being the one and the others; but, if in  addition to their  being

what they are they had equality, they would be  equal to one another,  or if the one had smallness and the

others  greatness, or the one had  greatness and the others  smallnesswhichever kind had greatness would be

greater, and  whichever had smallness would be smaller? 

Certainly. 

Then there are two such ideas as greatness and smallness; for if  they were  not they could not be opposed to

each other and be present  in that which  is. 

How could they? 

If, then, smallness is present in the one it will be present either  in the  whole or in a part of the whole? 

Certainly. 

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Clearly. 

If it be coextensive with the one it will be coequal with the  one, or if  containing the one it will be greater

than the one? 

Of course. 

But can smallness be equal to anything or greater than anything,  and have  the functions of greatness and

equality and not its own  functions? 

Impossible. 

Then smallness cannot be in the whole of one, but, if at all, in a  part  only? 

Yes. 

And surely not in all of a part, for then the difficulty of the  whole will  recur; it will be equal to or greater than

any part in  which it is. 

Certainly. 

Then smallness will not be in anything, whether in a whole or in a  part;  nor will there be anything small but

actual smallness. 

True. 

Neither will greatness be in the one, for if greatness be in  anything there  will be something greater other and

besides greatness  itself, namely, that  in which greatness is; and this too when the  small itself is not there,

which the one, if it is great, must exceed;  this, however, is impossible,  seeing that smallness is wholly absent. 

True. 

But absolute greatness is only greater than absolute smallness, and  smallness is only smaller than absolute

greatness. 

Very true. 

Then other things not greater or less than the one, if they have  neither  greatness nor smallness; nor have

greatness or smallness any  power of  exceeding or being exceeded in relation to the one, but only  in relation to

one another; nor will the one be greater or less than  them or others, if it  has neither greatness nor smallness. 

Clearly not. 

Then if the one is neither greater nor less than the others, it  cannot  either exceed or be exceeded by them? 

Certainly not. 

And that which neither exceeds nor is exceeded, must be on an  equality; and  being on an equality, must be

equal. 

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And this will be true also of the relation of the one to itself;  having  neither greatness nor smallness in itself, it

will neither  exceed nor be  exceeded by itself, but will be on an equality with and  equal to itself. 

Certainly. 

Then the one will be equal both to itself and the others? 

Clearly so. 

And yet the one, being itself in itself, will also surround and be  without  itself; and, as containing itself, will

be greater than  itself; and, as  contained in itself, will be less; and will thus be  greater and less than  itself. 

It will. 

Now there cannot possibly be anything which is not included in the  one and  the others? 

Of course not. 

But, surely, that which is must always be somewhere? 

Yes. 

But that which is in anything will be less, and that in which it is  will be  greater; in no other way can one thing

be in another. 

True. 

And since there is nothing other or besides the one and the others,  and  they must be in something, must they

not be in one another, the  one in the  others and the others in the one, if they are to be  anywhere? 

That is clear. 

But inasmuch as the one is in the others, the others will be  greater than  the one, because they contain the one,

which will be less  than the others,  because it is contained in them; and inasmuch as the  others are in the one,

the one on the same principle will be greater  than the others, and the  others less than the one. 

True. 

The one, then, will be equal to and greater and less than itself  and the  others? 

Clearly. 

And if it be greater and less and equal, it will be of equal and  more and  less measures or divisions than itself

and the others, and if  of measures,  also of parts? 

Of course. 

And if of equal and more and less measures or divisions, it will be  in  number more or less than itself and the

others, and likewise equal  in  number to itself and to the others? 

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It will be of more measures than those things which it exceeds, and  of as  many parts as measures; and so with

that to which it is equal,  and that  than which it is less. 

True. 

And being greater and less than itself, and equal to itself, it  will be of  equal measures with itself and of more

and fewer measures  than itself; and  if of measures then also of parts? 

It will. 

And being of equal parts with itself, it will be numerically equal  to  itself; and being of more parts, more, and

being of less, less than  itself? 

Certainly. 

And the same will hold of its relation to other things; inasmuch as  it is  greater than them, it will be more in

number than them; and  inasmuch as it  is smaller, it will be less in number; and inasmuch as  it is equal in size

to other things, it will be equal to them in  number. 

Certainly. 

Once more, then, as would appear, the one will be in number both  equal to  and more and less than both itself

and all other things. 

It will. 

Does the one also partake of time?  And is it and does it become  older and  younger than itself and others, and

again, neither younger  nor older than  itself and others, by virtue of participation in time? 

How do you mean? 

If one is, being must be predicated of it? 

Yes. 

But to be (einai) is only participation of being in present time,  and to  have been is the participation of being at

a past time, and to  be about to  be is the participation of being at a future time? 

Very true. 

Then the one, since it partakes of being, partakes of time? 

Certainly. 

And is not time always moving forward? 

Yes. 

Then the one is always becoming older than itself, since it moves  forward  in time? 

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And do you remember that the older becomes older than that which  becomes  younger? 

I remember. 

Then since the one becomes older than itself, it becomes younger at  the  same time? 

Certainly. 

Thus, then, the one becomes older as well as younger than itself? 

Yes. 

And it is older (is it not?) when in becoming, it gets to the point  of time  between 'was' and 'will be,' which is

'now':  for surely in  going from the  past to the future, it cannot skip the present? 

No. 

And when it arrives at the present it stops from becoming older,  and no  longer becomes, but is older, for if it

went on it would never  be reached  by the present, for it is the nature of that which goes on,  to touch both  the

present and the future, letting go the present and  seizing the future,  while in process of becoming between

them. 

True. 

But that which is becoming cannot skip the present; when it reaches  the  present it ceases to become, and is

then whatever it may happen to  be  becoming. 

Clearly. 

And so the one, when in becoming older it reaches the present,  ceases to  become, and is then older. 

Certainly. 

And it is older than that than which it was becoming older, and it  was  becoming older than itself. 

Yes. 

And that which is older is older than that which is younger? 

True. 

Then the one is younger than itself, when in becoming older it  reaches the  present? 

Certainly. 

But the present is always present with the one during all its  being; for  whenever it is it is always now. 

Certainly. 

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Truly. 

And is it or does it become a longer time than itself or an equal  time with  itself? 

An equal time. 

But if it becomes or is for an equal time with itself, it is of the  same  age with itself? 

Of course. 

And that which is of the same age, is neither older nor younger? 

No. 

The one, then, becoming and being the same time with itself,  neither is nor  becomes older or younger than

itself? 

I should say not. 

And what are its relations to other things?  Is it or does it  become older  or younger than they? 

I cannot tell you. 

You can at least tell me that others than the one are more than the  one  other would have been one, but the

others have multitude, and  are more than  one? 

They will have multitude. 

And a multitude implies a number larger than one? 

Of course. 

And shall we say that the lesser or the greater is the first to  come or to  have come into existence? 

The lesser. 

Then the least is the first?  And that is the one? 

Yes. 

Then the one of all things that have number is the first to come  into  being; but all other things have also

number, being plural and  not  singular. 

They have. 

And since it came into being first it must be supposed to have come  into  being prior to the others, and the

others later; and the things  which came  into being later, are younger than that which preceded  them?  And so

the  other things will be younger than the one, and the  one older than other  things? 

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What would you say of another question?  Can the one have come into  being  contrary to its own nature, or is

that impossible? 

Impossible. 

And yet, surely, the one was shown to have parts; and if parts,  then a  beginning, middle and end? 

Yes. 

And a beginning, both of the one itself and of all other things,  comes into  being first of all; and after the

beginning, the others  follow, until you  reach the end? 

Certainly. 

And all these others we shall affirm to be parts of the whole and  of the  one, which, as soon as the end is

reached, has become whole and  one? 

Yes; that is what we shall say. 

But the end comes last, and the one is of such a nature as to come  into  being with the last; and, since the one

cannot come into being  except in  accordance with its own nature, its nature will require that  it should come

into being after the others, simultaneously with the  end. 

Clearly. 

Then the one is younger than the others and the others older than  the one. 

That also is clear in my judgment. 

Well, and must not a beginning or any other part of the one or of  anything,  if it be a part and not parts, being

a part, be also of  necessity one? 

Certainly. 

And will not the one come into being together with each  parttogether with  the first part when that comes

into being, and  together with the second  part and with all the rest, and will not be  wanting to any part, which

is  added to any other part until it has  reached the last and become one whole;  it will be wanting neither to  the

middle, nor to the first, nor to the  last, nor to any of them,  while the process of becoming is going on? 

True. 

Then the one is of the same age with all the others, so that if the  one  itself does not contradict its own nature,

it will be neither  prior nor  posterior to the others, but simultaneous; and according to  this argument  the one

will be neither older nor younger than the  others, nor the others  than the one, but according to the previous

argument the one will be older  and younger than the others and the  others than the one. 

Certainly. 

After this manner then the one is and has become.  But as to its  becoming  older and younger than the others,

and the others than the  one, and neither  older nor younger, what shall we say?  Shall we say  as of being so

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I cannot answer. 

But I can venture to say, that even if one thing were older or  younger than  another, it could not become older

or younger in a  greater degree than it  was at first; for equals added to unequals,  whether to periods of time or

to anything else, leave the difference  between them the same as at first. 

Of course. 

Then that which is, cannot become older or younger than that which  is,  since the difference of age is always

the same; the one is and has  become  older and the other younger; but they are no longer becoming  so. 

True. 

And the one which is does not therefore become either older or  younger than  the others which are. 

No. 

But consider whether they may not become older and younger in  another way. 

In what way? 

Just as the one was proven to be older than the others and the  others than  the one. 

And what of that? 

If the one is older than the others, has come into being a longer  time than  the others. 

Yes. 

But consider again; if we add equal time to a greater and a less  time, will  the greater differ from the less time

by an equal or by a  smaller portion  than before? 

By a smaller portion. 

Then the difference between the age of the one and the age of the  others  will not be afterwards so great as at

first, but if an equal  time be added  to both of them they will differ less and less in age? 

Yes. 

And that which differs in age from some other less than formerly,  from  being older will become younger in

relation to that other than  which it was  older? 

Yes, younger. 

And if the one becomes younger the others aforesaid will become  older than  they were before, in relation to

the one. 

Certainly. 

Then that which had become younger becomes older relatively to that  which  previously had become and was

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the  other on the side of age.  And in like manner the older  is always in  process of becoming younger than the

younger; for as they  are always going  in opposite directions they become in ways the  opposite to one another,

the  younger older than the older, and the  older younger than the younger.  They  cannot, however, have

become;  for if they had already become they would be  and not merely become.  But that is impossible; for

they are always  becoming both older and  younger than one another:  the one becomes younger  than the others

because it was seen to be older and prior, and the others  become older  than the one because they came into

being later; and in the  same way  the others are in the same relation to the one, because they were  seen  to be

older, and prior to the one. 

That is clear. 

Inasmuch then, one thing does not become older or younger than  another, in  that they always differ from each

other by an equal  number, the one cannot  become older or younger than the others, nor  the others than the

one; but  inasmuch as that which came into being  earlier and that which came into  being later must

continually differ  from each other by a different portion  in this point of view the  others must become older

and younger than the  one, and the one than  the others. 

Certainly. 

For all these reasons, then, the one is and becomes older and  younger than  itself and the others, and neither is

nor becomes older  or younger than  itself or the others. 

Certainly. 

But since the one partakes of time, and partakes of becoming older  and  younger, must it not also partake of

the past, the present, and  the future? 

Of course it must. 

Then the one was and is and will be, and was becoming and is  becoming and  will become? 

Certainly. 

And there is and was and will be something which is in relation to  it and  belongs to it? 

True. 

And since we have at this moment opinion and knowledge and  perception of  the one, there is opinion and

knowledge and perception  of it? 

Quite right. 

Then there is name and expression for it, and it is named and  expressed,  and everything of this kind which

appertains to other  things appertains to  the one. 

Certainly, that is true. 

Yet once more and for the third time, let us consider:  If the one  is both  one and many, as we have described,

and is neither one nor  many, and  participates in time, must it not, in as far as it is one,  at times partake  of

being, and in as far as it is not one, at times  not partake of being? 


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Certainly. 

But can it partake of being when not partaking of being, or not  partake of  being when partaking of being? 

Impossible. 

Then the one partakes and does not partake of being at different  times, for  that is the only way in which it can

partake and not  partake of the same. 

True. 

And is there not also a time at which it assumes being and  relinquishes  beingfor how can it have and not

have the same thing  unless it receives  and also gives it up at some time? 

Impossible. 

And the assuming of being is what you would call becoming? 

I should. 

And the relinquishing of being you would call destruction? 

I should. 

The one then, as would appear, becomes and is destroyed by taking  and  giving up being. 

Certainly. 

And being one and many and in process of becoming and being  destroyed, when  it becomes one it ceases to

be many, and when many, it  ceases to be one? 

Certainly. 

And as it becomes one and many, must it not inevitably experience  separation and aggregation? 

Inevitably. 

And whenever it becomes like and unlike it must be assimilated and  dissimilated? 

Yes. 

And when it becomes greater or less or equal it must grow or  diminish or be  equalized? 

True. 

And when being in motion it rests, and when being at rest it  changes to  motion, it can surely be in no time at

all? 

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But that a thing which is previously at rest should be afterwards  in  motion, or previously in motion and

afterwards at rest, without  experiencing change, is impossible. 

Impossible. 

And surely there cannot be a time in which a thing can be at once  neither  in motion nor at rest? 

There cannot. 

But neither can it change without changing. 

True. 

When then does it change; for it cannot change either when at rest,  or when  in motion, or when in time? 

It cannot. 

And does this strange thing in which it is at the time of changing  really  exist? 

What thing? 

The moment.  For the moment seems to imply a something out of which  change  takes place into either of two

states; for the change is not  from the state  of rest as such, nor from the state of motion as such;  but there is

this  curious nature which we call the moment lying  between rest and motion, not  being in any time; and into

this and out  of this what is in motion changes  into rest, and what is at rest into  motion. 

So it appears. 

And the one then, since it is at rest and also in motion, will  change to  either, for only in this way can it be in

both.  And in  changing it changes  in a moment, and when it is changing it will be in  no time, and will not  then

be either in motion or at rest. 

It will not. 

And it will be in the same case in relation to the other changes,  when it  passes from being into cessation of

being, or from notbeing  into becoming  then it passes between certain states of motion and  rest, and

neither is  nor is not, nor becomes nor is destroyed. 

Very true. 

And on the same principle, in the passage from one to many and from  many to  one, the one is neither one nor

many, neither separated nor  aggregated; and  in the passage from like to unlike, and from unlike to  like, it is

neither  like nor unlike, neither in a state of  assimilation nor of dissimilation;  and in the passage from small to

great and equal and back again, it will be  neither small nor great,  nor equal, nor in a state of increase, or

diminution, or equalization. 

True. 

All these, then, are the affections of the one, if the one has  being. 

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1.aa.  But if one is, what will happen to the othersis not that  also to  be considered? 

Yes. 

Let us show then, if one is, what will be the affections of the  others than  the one. 

Let us do so. 

Inasmuch as there are things other than the one, the others are not  the  one; for if they were they could not be

other than the one. 

Very true. 

Nor are the others altogether without the one, but in a certain way  they  participate in the one. 

In what way? 

Because the others are other than the one inasmuch as they have  parts; for  if they had no parts they would be

simply one. 

Right. 

And parts, as we affirm, have relation to a whole? 

So we say. 

And a whole must necessarily be one made up of many; and the parts  will be  parts of the one, for each of the

parts is not a part of many,  but of a  whole. 

How do you mean? 

If anything were a part of many, being itself one of them, it will  surely  be a part of itself, which is impossible,

and it will be a part  of each one  of the other parts, if of all; for if not a part of some  one, it will be a  part of all

the others but this one, and thus will  not be a part of each  one; and if not a part of each, one it will not  be a

part of any one of the  many; and not being a part of any one, it  cannot be a part or anything else  of all those

things of none of which  it is anything. 

Clearly not. 

Then the part is not a part of the many, nor of all, but is of a  certain  single form, which we call a whole, being

one perfect unity  framed out of  allof this the part will be a part. 

Certainly. 

If, then, the others have parts, they will participate in the whole  and in  the one. 

True. 

Then the others than the one must be one perfect whole, having  parts. 

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And the same argument holds of each part, for the part must  participate in  the one; for if each of the parts is a

part, this  means, I suppose, that it  is one separate from the rest and  selfrelated; otherwise it is not each. 

True. 

But when we speak of the part participating in the one, it must  clearly be  other than one; for if not, it would

not merely have  participated, but  would have been one; whereas only the itself can be  one. 

Very true. 

Both the whole and the part must participate in the one; for the  whole will  be one whole, of which the parts

will be parts; and each  part will be one  part of the whole which is the whole of the part. 

True. 

And will not the things which participate in the one, be other than  it? 

Of course. 

And the things which are other than the one will be many; for if  the things  which are other than the one were

neither one nor more than  one, they would  be nothing. 

True. 

But, seeing that the things which participate in the one as a part,  and in  the one as a whole, are more than one,

must not those very  things which  participate in the one be infinite in number? 

How so? 

Let us look at the matter thus:Is it not a fact that in partaking  of the  one they are not one, and do not

partake of the one at the very  time when  they are partaking of it? 

Clearly. 

They do so then as multitudes in which the one is not present? 

Very true. 

And if we were to abstract from them in idea the very smallest  fraction,  must not that least fraction, if it does

not partake of the  one, be a  multitude and not one? 

It must. 

And if we continue to look at the other side of their nature,  regarded  simply, and in itself, will not they, as far

as we see them,  be unlimited  in number? 

Certainly. 

And yet, when each several part becomes a part, then the parts have  a limit  in relation to the whole and to

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Just so. 

The result to the others than the one is that the union of  themselves and  the one appears to create a new

element in them which  gives to them  limitation in relation to one another; whereas in their  own nature they

have no limit. 

That is clear. 

Then the others than the one, both as whole and parts, are  infinite, and  also partake of limit. 

Certainly. 

Then they are both like and unlike one another and themselves. 

How is that? 

Inasmuch as they are unlimited in their own nature, they are all  affected  in the same way. 

True. 

And inasmuch as they all partake of limit, they are all affected in  the  same way. 

Of course. 

But inasmuch as their state is both limited and unlimited, they are  affected in opposite ways. 

Yes. 

And opposites are the most unlike of things. 

Certainly. 

Considered, then, in regard to either one of their affections, they  will be  like themselves and one another;

considered in reference to  both of them  together, most opposed and most unlike. 

That appears to be true. 

Then the others are both like and unlike themselves and one  another? 

True. 

And they are the same and also different from one another, and in  motion  and at rest, and experience every

sort of opposite affection,  as may be  proved without difficulty of them, since they have been  shown to have

experienced the affections aforesaid? 

True. 

1.bb.  Suppose, now, that we leave the further discussion of these  matters  as evident, and consider again upon

the hypothesis that the  one is, whether  opposite of all this is or is not equally true of the  others. 

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Then let us begin again, and ask, If one is, what must be the  affections of  the others? 

Let us ask that question. 

Must not the one be distinct from the others, and the others from  the one? 

Why so? 

Why, because there is nothing else beside them which is distinct  from both  of them; for the expression 'one

and the others' includes  all things. 

Yes, all things. 

Then we cannot suppose that there is anything different from them  in which  both the one and the others might

exist? 

There is nothing. 

Then the one and the others are never in the same? 

True. 

Then they are separated from each other? 

Yes. 

And we surely cannot say that what is truly one has parts? 

Impossible. 

Then the one will not be in the others as a whole, nor as part, if  it be  separated from the others, and has no

parts? 

Impossible. 

Then there is no way in which the others can partake of the one, if  they do  not partake either in whole or in

part? 

It would seem not. 

Then there is no way in which the others are one, or have in  themselves any  unity? 

There is not. 

Nor are the others many; for if they were many, each part of them  would be  a part of the whole; but now the

others, not partaking in any  way of the  one, are neither one nor many, nor whole, nor part. 

True. 

Then the others neither are nor contain two or three, if entirely  deprived  of the one? 


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True. 

Then the others are neither like nor unlike the one, nor is  likeness and  unlikeness in them; for if they were

like and unlike, or  had in them  likeness and unlikeness, they would have two natures in  them opposite to  one

another. 

That is clear. 

But for that which partakes of nothing to partake of two things was  held by  us to be impossible? 

Impossible. 

Then the others are neither like nor unlike nor both, for if they  were like  or unlike they would partake of one

of those two natures,  which would be  one thing, and if they were both they would partake of  opposites which

would be two things, and this has been shown to be  impossible. 

True. 

Therefore they are neither the same, nor other, nor in motion, nor  at rest,  nor in a state of becoming, nor of

being destroyed, nor  greater, nor less,  nor equal, nor have they experienced anything else  of the sort; for, if

they are capable of experiencing any such  affection, they will participate  in one and two and three, and odd

and  even, and in these, as has been  proved, they do not participate,  seeing that they are altogether and in

every way devoid of the one. 

Very true. 

Therefore if one is, the one is all things, and also nothing, both  in  relation to itself and to other things. 

Certainly. 

2.a.  Well, and ought we not to consider next what will be the  consequence  if the one is not? 

Yes; we ought. 

What is the meaning of the hypothesisIf the one is not; is there  any  difference between this and the

hypothesisIf the not one is not? 

There is a difference, certainly. 

Is there a difference only, or rather are not the two  expressionsif the  one is not, and if the not one is not,

entirely  opposed? 

They are entirely opposed. 

And suppose a person to say:If greatness is not, if smallness is  not, or  anything of that sort, does he not

mean, whenever he uses such  an  expression, that 'what is not' is other than other things? 

To be sure. 

And so when he says 'If one is not' he clearly means, that what 'is  not' is  other than all others; we know what

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Yes, we do. 

When he says 'one,' he says something which is known; and secondly  something which is other than all other

things; it makes no difference  whether he predicate of one being or notbeing, for that which is said  'not  to

be' is known to be something all the same, and is  distinguished from  other things. 

Certainly. 

Then I will begin again, and ask:  If one is not, what are the  consequences?  In the first place, as would appear,

there is a  knowledge of  it, or the very meaning of the words, 'if one is not,'  would not be known. 

True. 

Secondly, the others differ from it, or it could not be described  as  different from the others? 

Certainly. 

Difference, then, belongs to it as well as knowledge; for in  speaking of  the one as different from the others,

we do not speak of a  difference in  the others, but in the one. 

Clearly so. 

Moreover, the one that is not is something and partakes of relation  to  'that,' and 'this,' and 'these,' and the like,

and is an attribute  of  'this'; for the one, or the others than the one, could not have  been spoken  of, nor could

any attribute or relative of the one that is  not have been or  been spoken of, nor could it have been said to be

anything, if it did not  partake of 'some,' or of the other relations  just now mentioned. 

True. 

Being, then, cannot be ascribed to the one, since it is not; but  the one  that is not may or rather must

participate in many things, if  it and  nothing else is not; if, however, neither the one nor the one  that is not  is

supposed not to be, and we are speaking of something of  a different  nature, we can predicate nothing of it.

But supposing  that the one that is  not and nothing else is not, then it must  participate in the predicate  'that,'

and in many others. 

Certainly. 

And it will have unlikeness in relation to the others, for the  others being  different from the one will be of a

different kind. 

Certainly. 

And are not things of a different kind also other in kind? 

Of course. 

And are not things other in kind unlike? 

They are unlike. 

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Clearly so. 

Then the one will have unlikeness in respect of which the others  are unlike  it? 

That would seem to be true. 

And if unlikeness to other things is attributed to it, it must have  likeness to itself. 

How so? 

If the one have unlikeness to one, something else must be meant;  nor will  the hypothesis relate to one; but it

will relate to something  other than  one? 

Quite so. 

But that cannot be. 

No. 

Then the one must have likeness to itself? 

It must. 

Again, it is not equal to the others; for if it were equal, then it  would  at once be and be like them in virtue of

the equality; but if  one has no  being, then it can neither be nor be like? 

It cannot. 

But since it is not equal to the others, neither can the others be  equal to  it? 

Certainly not. 

And things that are not equal are unequal? 

True. 

And they are unequal to an unequal? 

Of course. 

Then the one partakes of inequality, and in respect of this the  others are  unequal to it? 

Very true. 

And inequality implies greatness and smallness? 

Yes. 

Then the one, if of such a nature, has greatness and smallness? 

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And greatness and smallness always stand apart? 

True. 

Then there is always something between them? 

There is. 

And can you think of anything else which is between them other than  equality? 

No, it is equality which lies between them. 

Then that which has greatness and smallness also has equality,  which lies  between them? 

That is clear. 

Then the one, which is not, partakes, as would appear, of greatness  and  smallness and equality? 

Clearly. 

Further, it must surely in a sort partake of being? 

How so? 

It must be so, for if not, then we should not speak the truth in  saying  that the one is not.  But if we speak the

truth, clearly we  must say what  is.  Am I not right? 

Yes. 

And since we affirm that we speak truly, we must also affirm that  we say  what is? 

Certainly. 

Then, as would appear, the one, when it is not, is; for if it were  not to  be when it is not, but (Or, 'to remit

something of existence in  relation to  notbeing.') were to relinquish something of being, so as  to become

not  being, it would at once be. 

Quite true. 

Then the one which is not, if it is to maintain itself, must have  the being  of notbeing as the bond of

notbeing, just as being must  have as a bond  the notbeing of notbeing in order to perfect its own  being; for

the  truest assertion of the being of being and of the  notbeing of notbeing is  when being partakes of the

being of being,  and not of the being of not  beingthat is, the perfection of being;  and when notbeing does

not  partake of the notbeing of notbeing but  of the being of notbeingthat  is the perfection of notbeing. 

Most true. 

Since then what is partakes of notbeing, and what is not of being,  must  not the one also partake of being in

order not to be? 

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Then the one, if it is not, clearly has being? 

Clearly. 

And has notbeing also, if it is not? 

Of course. 

But can anything which is in a certain state not be in that state  without  changing? 

Impossible. 

Then everything which is and is not in a certain state, implies  change? 

Certainly. 

And change is motionwe may say that? 

Yes, motion. 

And the one has been proved both to be and not to be? 

Yes. 

And therefore is and is not in the same state? 

Yes. 

Thus the one that is not has been shown to have motion also,  because it  changes from being to notbeing? 

That appears to be true. 

But surely if it is nowhere among what is, as is the fact, since it  is not,  it cannot change from one place to

another? 

Impossible. 

Then it cannot move by changing place? 

No. 

Nor can it turn on the same spot, for it nowhere touches the same,  for the  same is, and that which is not

cannot be reckoned among things  that are? 

It cannot. 

Then the one, if it is not, cannot turn in that in which it is not? 

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Neither can the one, whether it is or is not, be altered into other  than  itself, for if it altered and became

different from itself, then  we could  not be still speaking of the one, but of something else? 

True. 

But if the one neither suffers alteration, nor turns round in the  same  place, nor changes place, can it still be

capable of motion? 

Impossible. 

Now that which is unmoved must surely be at rest, and that which is  at rest  must stand still? 

Certainly. 

Then the one that is not, stands still, and is also in motion? 

That seems to be true. 

But if it be in motion it must necessarily undergo alteration, for  anything  which is moved, in so far as it is

moved, is no longer in the  same state,  but in another? 

Yes. 

Then the one, being moved, is altered? 

Yes. 

And, further, if not moved in any way, it will not be altered in  any way? 

No. 

Then, in so far as the one that is not is moved, it is altered, but  in so  far as it is not moved, it is not altered? 

Right. 

Then the one that is not is altered and is not altered? 

That is clear. 

And must not that which is altered become other than it previously  was, and  lose its former state and be

destroyed; but that which is not  altered can  neither come into being nor be destroyed? 

Very true. 

And the one that is not, being altered, becomes and is destroyed;  and not  being altered, neither becomes nor is

destroyed; and so the  one that is not  becomes and is destroyed, and neither becomes nor is  destroyed? 

True. 

2.b.  And now, let us go back once more to the beginning, and see  whether  these or some other consequences

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Let us do as you say. 

If one is not, we ask what will happen in respect of one?  That is  the  question. 

Yes. 

Do not the words 'is not' signify absence of being in that to which  we  apply them? 

Just so. 

And when we say that a thing is not, do we mean that it is not in  one way  but is in another? or do we mean,

absolutely, that what is not  has in no  sort or way or kind participation of being? 

Quite absolutely. 

Then, that which is not cannot be, or in any way participate in  being? 

It cannot. 

And did we not mean by becoming, and being destroyed, the  assumption of  being and the loss of being? 

Nothing else. 

And can that which has no participation in being, either assume or  lose  being? 

Impossible. 

The one then, since it in no way is, cannot have or lose or assume  being in  any way? 

True. 

Then the one that is not, since it in no way partakes of being,  neither  perishes nor becomes? 

No. 

Then it is not altered at all; for if it were it would become and  be  destroyed? 

True. 

But if it be not altered it cannot be moved? 

Certainly not. 

Nor can we say that it stands, if it is nowhere; for that which  stands must  always be in one and the same spot? 

Of course. 

Then we must say that the one which is not never stands still and  never  moves? 

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Nor is there any existing thing which can be attributed to it; for  if there  had been, it would partake of being? 

That is clear. 

And therefore neither smallness, nor greatness, nor equality, can  be  attributed to it? 

No. 

Nor yet likeness nor difference, either in relation to itself or to  others? 

Clearly not. 

Well, and if nothing should be attributed to it, can other things  be  attributed to it? 

Certainly not. 

And therefore other things can neither be like or unlike, the same,  or  different in relation to it? 

They cannot. 

Nor can what is not, be anything, or be this thing, or be related  to or the  attribute of this or that or other, or be

past, present, or  future.  Nor  can knowledge, or opinion, or perception, or expression,  or name, or any  other

thing that is, have any concern with it? 

No. 

Then the one that is not has no condition of any kind? 

Such appears to be the conclusion. 

2.aa.  Yet once more; if one is not, what becomes of the others?  Let us  determine that. 

Yes; let us determine that. 

The others must surely be; for if they, like the one, were not, we  could  not be now speaking of them. 

True. 

But to speak of the others implies differencethe terms 'other'  and  'different' are synonymous? 

True. 

Other means other than other, and different, different from the  different? 

Yes. 

Then, if there are to be others, there is something than which they  will be  other? 

Certainly. 

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They will not. 

Then they will be other than each other; for the only remaining  alternative  is that they are other than nothing. 

True. 

And they are each other than one another, as being plural and not  singular;  for if one is not, they cannot be

singular, but every  particle of them is  infinite in number; and even if a person takes  that which appears to be

the  smallest fraction, this, which seemed  one, in a moment evanesces into many,  as in a dream, and from

being  the smallest becomes very great, in  comparison with the fractions into  which it is split up? 

Very true. 

And in such particles the others will be other than one another, if  others  are, and the one is not? 

Exactly. 

And will there not be many particles, each appearing to be one, but  not  being one, if one is not? 

True. 

And it would seem that number can be predicated of them if each of  them  appears to be one, though it is

really many? 

It can. 

And there will seem to be odd and even among them, which will also  have no  reality, if one is not? 

Yes. 

And there will appear to be a least among them; and even this will  seem  large and manifold in comparison

with the many small fractions  which are  contained in it? 

Certainly. 

And each particle will be imagined to be equal to the many and  little; for  it could not have appeared to pass

from the greater to the  less without  having appeared to arrive at the middle; and thus would  arise the

appearance of equality. 

Yes. 

And having neither beginning, middle, nor end, each separate  particle yet  appears to have a limit in relation to

itself and other. 

How so? 

Because, when a person conceives of any one of these as such, prior  to the  beginning another beginning

appears, and there is another end,  remaining  after the end, and in the middle truer middles within but  smaller,

because  no unity can be conceived of any of them, since the  one is not. 

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And so all being, whatever we think of, must be broken up into  fractions,  for a particle will have to be

conceived of without unity? 

Certainly. 

And such being when seen indistinctly and at a distance, appears to  be one;  but when seen near and with keen

intellect, every single thing  appears to  be infinite, since it is deprived of the one, which is not? 

Nothing more certain. 

Then each of the others must appear to be infinite and finite, and  one and  many, if others than the one exist

and not the one. 

They must. 

Then will they not appear to be like and unlike? 

In what way? 

Just as in a picture things appear to be all one to a person  standing at a  distance, and to be in the same state

and alike? 

True. 

But when you approach them, they appear to be many and different;  and  because of the appearance of the

difference, different in kind  from, and  unlike, themselves? 

True. 

And so must the particles appear to be like and unlike themselves  and each  other. 

Certainly. 

And must they not be the same and yet different from one another,  and in  contact with themselves, although

they are separated, and  having every sort  of motion, and every sort of rest, and becoming and  being

destroyed, and in  neither state, and the like, all which things  may be easily enumerated, if  the one is not and

the many are? 

Most true. 

2.bb.  Once more, let us go back to the beginning, and ask if the  one is  not, and the others of the one are, what

will follow. 

Let us ask that question. 

In the first place, the others will not be one? 

Impossible. 

Nor will they be many; for if they were many one would be contained  in  them.  But if no one of them is one,

all of them are nought, and  therefore  they will not be many. 


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True. 

If there be no one in the others, the others are neither many nor  one. 

They are not. 

Nor do they appear either as one or many. 

Why not? 

Because the others have no sort or manner or way of communion with  any sort  of notbeing, nor can

anything which is not, be connected  with any of the  others; for that which is not has no parts. 

True. 

Nor is there an opinion or any appearance of notbeing in connexion  with  the others, nor is notbeing ever in

any way attributed to the  others. 

No. 

Then if one is not, there is no conception of any of the others  either as  one or many; for you cannot conceive

the many without the  one. 

You cannot. 

Then if one is not, the others neither are, nor can be conceived to  be  either one or many? 

It would seem not. 

Nor as like or unlike? 

No. 

Nor as the same or different, nor in contact or separation, nor in  any of  those states which we enumerated as

appearing to be;the  others neither  are nor appear to be any of these, if one is not? 

True. 

Then may we not sum up the argument in a word and say truly:  If  one is  not, then nothing is? 

Certainly. 

Let thus much be said; and further let us affirm what seems to be  the  truth, that, whether one is or is not, one

and the others in  relation to  themselves and one another, all of them, in every way, are  and are not, and

appear to be and appear not to be. 

Most true. 


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